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Poll: "AI is redifining human intelligence and creativity" De persoon die dit onderwerp geplaatst heeft: ProZ.com Staff
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| Equal outcomes, not just equal opportunities | Apr 3 |
Was that what DEI folks and others of that ilk were clamouring for? AI is certainly one way to help mediocrities fool other mediocrities into thinking they're brilliant, because people who really are brilliant are unlikely to praise AI outputs as anything close to brilliance. Elitist ideas, I know, it's just that I don't place myself in the league of the brilliant. I just know how to do my job properly with no shortcuts. Today, I completed one hell of an MTPE job where I had to check the origina... See more Was that what DEI folks and others of that ilk were clamouring for? AI is certainly one way to help mediocrities fool other mediocrities into thinking they're brilliant, because people who really are brilliant are unlikely to praise AI outputs as anything close to brilliance. Elitist ideas, I know, it's just that I don't place myself in the league of the brilliant. I just know how to do my job properly with no shortcuts. Today, I completed one hell of an MTPE job where I had to check the original Chinese for almost every sentence using a number of MT engines, a Chinese dictionary, and a bunch of standards to understand what it's all about. Purely technical stuff, about a heating furnace for gas condensate. Why do people always mention creative content as the ultimate AI-proof subject area? I think I know better than many others what mess the machine can make out of a technical text. And if anybody thinks my outputs were in any way similar to the machine outputs from said engines, they should think again. The outputs were 100% my own. So, who's redefining what and how, anyway? ▲ Collapse
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IrinaN
United States
Local time: 14:11
English to Russian
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| Food for thought while we can think | Apr 4 |
The source may not open in every country so just excerpts, but you can find it yourself now, just quote.
People becoming more stupid – study
The shift from reading to consuming video content may have diminished human intelligence, research finds
Human intellectual abilities such as reasoning and problem-solving are diminishing, possibly due to increased exposure to visual media, the Financial Times (FT) has reported.
Human intelligence appeared to p... See more The source may not open in every country so just excerpts, but you can find it yourself now, just quote.
People becoming more stupid – study
The shift from reading to consuming video content may have diminished human intelligence, research finds
Human intellectual abilities such as reasoning and problem-solving are diminishing, possibly due to increased exposure to visual media, the Financial Times (FT) has reported.
Human intelligence appeared to peak in the early 2010s and has been in decline since, the FT added, citing PISA, an international benchmarking test for 15-year-olds that includes reading, mathematics and science, and adult cognitive evaluations.
The reported trend comes amid a rise in artificial intelligence (AI) which, by some estimates, may surpass human IQ in a matter of years.
The recorded spike in the share of high school students who reported difficulties in PISA tests coincides with a broad change in people’s relationship with information, such as the transition away from reading and towards visual content, the publication explained.
While active, intentional use of digital technologies can often be beneficial, being passively exposed to infinite content on social media coupled with frequent context-switching has been shown to negatively impact attention span, memory, and self-regulation. The documented decline in reading among Americans reportedly comes alongside a decrease in numeracy and other forms of problem-solving in most countries.
Human intellectual capabilities, such as critical thinking, have also been impacted by generative AI, according to recent research by Microsoft and Carnegie Mellon University. Outsourcing thoughts to AI leaves people’s minds “atrophied and unprepared,” which can lead to “the deterioration of cognitive faculties that ought to be preserved.” ▲ Collapse
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AI isn't able to "redifine" anything: only human beings can do that. And sometimes they get it wrong.
As others have pointed out, this poll statement is gobbledygook, apart from the typo (which could have been avoided with the judicious use of AI - so AI is clearly not "redifining" the intelligence of ProZ staff  ).
For some already creative people, AI may help to boost their creativity; it may also fool ... See more AI isn't able to "redifine" anything: only human beings can do that. And sometimes they get it wrong.
As others have pointed out, this poll statement is gobbledygook, apart from the typo (which could have been avoided with the judicious use of AI - so AI is clearly not "redifining" the intelligence of ProZ staff ).
For some already creative people, AI may help to boost their creativity; it may also fool some less creative people into thinking they are more so. Overall, it's likely that AI will help increase the mass of mediocre garbage without affecting the small pockets of creative brilliance.
But it's human beings who are doing all of that, and the result depends, not upon the tool, but upon how artfully it is used. ▲ Collapse
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:11
Serbian to English
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| A long winded way to remind everyone | Apr 4 |
IrinaN wrote:
The source may not open in every country so just excerpts, but you can find it yourself now, just quote.
People becoming more stupid – study
The shift from reading to consuming video content may have diminished human intelligence, research finds
Human intellectual abilities such as reasoning and problem-solving are diminishing, possibly due to increased exposure to visual media, the Financial Times (FT) has reported.
Human intelligence appeared to peak in the early 2010s and has been in decline since, the FT added, citing PISA, an international benchmarking test for 15-year-olds that includes reading, mathematics and science, and adult cognitive evaluations.
The reported trend comes amid a rise in artificial intelligence (AI) which, by some estimates, may surpass human IQ in a matter of years.
The recorded spike in the share of high school students who reported difficulties in PISA tests coincides with a broad change in people’s relationship with information, such as the transition away from reading and towards visual content, the publication explained.
While active, intentional use of digital technologies can often be beneficial, being passively exposed to infinite content on social media coupled with frequent context-switching has been shown to negatively impact attention span, memory, and self-regulation. The documented decline in reading among Americans reportedly comes alongside a decrease in numeracy and other forms of problem-solving in most countries.
Human intellectual capabilities, such as critical thinking, have also been impacted by generative AI, according to recent research by Microsoft and Carnegie Mellon University. Outsourcing thoughts to AI leaves people’s minds “atrophied and unprepared,” which can lead to “the deterioration of cognitive faculties that ought to be preserved.”
A long winded way of reminding everyone of a simple principle in biology - whatever organ is under-used starts atrophying.
'Use it or lose it' also applies to little grey cells ... In that regard Augmented Ignorance is not your friend.
More like a dope pusher dragging you into total dependence by initial 'free offers'.
OTOH the wording of the poll question strangely echoes this article: https://www.fastcompany.com/91107418/circles-of-intelligence-how-ai-is-redefining-human-creativity
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Baran Keki 
Türkiye
Local time: 22:11
Lid
English to Turkish
I was enjoying this last night, thinking I stumbled on an obscure, groovy, psychedelic rock gem from the 70s till I scrolled down to the comments...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgjLM7sGkAw
Part time gigging musicians trying to complement their income through translation, I have news for you: you're fucked.
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...when I visit my numerous clients here in my federal country between both seas and tell them how AI has changed the translation world, and when they tell me how easily they communicate today with their electronic gadgets in restaurants during their holidays, I will take some extra time and let them try to complete one of my jobs with DeepL in the background and all the tags to be put into the correct order...
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| I definitely agree that it does | Apr 5 |
There is no doubt that AI is impacting human intelligence and creativity in a good way through providing information and ideas some say that depending on information solely on AI will render the human brain incapable of thinking I however disagree simply because the human isn't just copy and pasting it he is processing the information through his brain and redefining it in a better and more accurate way, In conclusion combing human and artificial intelligence can lead to more sustainable and cre... See more There is no doubt that AI is impacting human intelligence and creativity in a good way through providing information and ideas some say that depending on information solely on AI will render the human brain incapable of thinking I however disagree simply because the human isn't just copy and pasting it he is processing the information through his brain and redefining it in a better and more accurate way, In conclusion combing human and artificial intelligence can lead to more sustainable and creative outcomes which would most definitely help in enhancing technology and the development of humanity as whole. ▲ Collapse
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:11
Serbian to English
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| Look like someone nicked your idea ... | Apr 6 |
Andrus Lauringson wrote:
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
I'm not English-native but I'm under the impression that this verb is spelled correctly redefine, isn't it? Or is this proof of AI creativity?
[Edited at 2025-04-03 09:30 GMT]
Maybe they meant "AI is ridifining human intelligence and creativity" as in "getting rid of".
Not sure, will ask ChatGPT.
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For those who are interested, here's an assessment of the current level of AI-produced music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSswFa8Ta1k&t=618s
This is by somebody who is an accomplished musician himself and has worked for many years as a record producer and performer, before starting this youtube channel.
His conclusions: Suno is scarily good, and people will like AI music.
I would put it a different way around: most music produced by humans is not actually very good, and AI is now able to produce music of that level very easily.
Note also, that generating these tracks requires some human creative input in the form of a prompt.
To test this myself, I asked Suno to produce songs based on the following, deliberately unhelpful prompt: Random genre, unconventional structure, be creative.
So this is the Suno AI's attempt at creativity, giving me two alternatives to choose from.
https://suno.com/song/0e99ee90-7394-4e1e-acb7-6199b3140cb4?sh=2k31GosGlTeYQUvp
https://suno.com/song/e140775a-3254-446e-b864-1f8323d084bf?sh=kF7281Y1X1pyAi24
If you heard either of these playing on the radio, or on line, would you be able to tell whether they were produced by AI or a human performer? Be honest.
Being honest, I wouldn't. Neither version is stunningly original, and this isn't the kind of music I would ordinarily listen to, but it's certainly not bad.
After doing this experiment, I tend to agree with Rick Beato.
To what extent this is relevant to the translation business may now be discussed. For example, the way the lyrics (generated entirely by Suno, with no intervention by me) hover on the boundary between visionary psychedelic poetry and nonsense.
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Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 21:11
Lid 2009
English to Croatian
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The lyrics are nonsense, “electric paper dreams”?
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Lingua 5B wrote:
The lyrics are nonsense, “electric paper dreams”?
Agree, and I would add that they are untranslatable.
For me, the interesting thing would be to know if this Suno AI can do the same in any other language or any other non-English genre or instrument, like Fado, Cumbia, Bolero, or Capoeira.
IMO, the real question isn't about how good the AI is, but about how brain-rotten humans are to keep insisting on imposing/selling this nonsense in every single field, even if it looks ridiculous, as in this case.
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Lingua 5B wrote:
The lyrics are nonsense, “electric paper dreams”?
Are you implying that electric paper does not dream? How can you be sure?
Joking aside, before dismissing this AI output, I think we should consider other song lyrics for comparison. For example:
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Newspaper taxis appear on the shore
Waiting to take you away
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds
And you're gone
2.
I followed him down the strip
He picked out a booth at Circus, Circus
Where the cowgirls fill the room
With their big balloons
The cleaner was pitching with purpose
He had Dinos and Pooh Bears
And lions pink and blue there
He couldn't lose there!
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He laughed at accidental sirens that broke the evening gloom
The police had warned of repercussions, they followed none too soon
A trickle of strangers were all that were left alive
Panic in Detroit, I asked for an autograph
He wanted to stay home, I wish someone would phone
4.
Soon within my tapestry
Along the rutted road
He sat down on a river rock
And turned into a toad
It seemed that he had fallen
Into someone's wicked spell
And I wept to see him suffer
Though I didn't know him well
All these lyrics were written by successful and highly respected human songwriters. Bonus points for anyone who can identify all of them.
Yes, the "creative" lyrics generated by the Suno AI in response to my prompt were obviously nonsense, because we know there is no conscious, thinking entity behind them. My point is that if we were told that those same lyrics had been written by a human being, we might view them differently.
Is "newspaper taxis appear on the shore" any less nonsense than "electronic paper dreams"?
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Maria Laura Curzi wrote:
For me, the interesting thing would be to know if this Suno AI can do the same in any other language or any other non-English genre or instrument, like Fado, Cumbia, Bolero, or Capoeira.
Why not try it? It's free, and quite easy to set up an account.
I would also be interested in the result.
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Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 21:11
Lid 2009
English to Croatian
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Nonsense and bizarre, the lyrics don’t get to me and I’d never listen to it.
I tried to make a few in the program. What I noticed is that it starts each line with personal pronouns, I, we, many of them with I. Resembles writing of a 9 year old. It didn’t want to integrate music with lyrics for some reason (I wasn’t signed in), but I didn’t try too hard, and I won’t.
[Edited at 2025-04-07 11:10 GMT]
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Johan Beyens
Belgium
Local time: 21:11
Lid 2024
English to Dutch
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| most is crap anyway | Apr 7 |
Most books, movies, music out there are cr@p anyway. That is not new. Back in the 50s even respected musicians spent hours in the studio recording elevator music and commercial jingles. At least back then, even if your music was mediocre, you still had to be able to sing in tune or play an instrument in time. In the last 2 decades we had autotune and quantizing to take care of that. Now AI just makes it possible (or should I say 'empower' LOL) for any idi... See more Most books, movies, music out there are cr@p anyway. That is not new. Back in the 50s even respected musicians spent hours in the studio recording elevator music and commercial jingles. At least back then, even if your music was mediocre, you still had to be able to sing in tune or play an instrument in time. In the last 2 decades we had autotune and quantizing to take care of that. Now AI just makes it possible (or should I say 'empower' LOL) for any idiot with a laptop to produce even more trash.
I'm lucky enough that I am often unable to distinguish words in songs, so a lot of it just goes by without me noticing it and they could all be singing de-do-do-do for all I care (no offence, Sting, I actually like that one!). If the lyrics stand out in the examples in the above post, it's because the music lets them. Just make it an instrumental track and you have a decent filler for in a shop or restroom.
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