klasicizující pomník

English translation: built in the classicising style

16:53 Nov 1, 2009
Czech to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Tourism & Travel
Czech term or phrase: klasicizující pomník
Dear fellow translators,

I am a translation student and a beginning translator and thus I would very much appreciate your advice. During my translation of a Czech tourism text, I have come across the following expression: 'klasicizující pomník' (wider context: Nedaleko od něj je nádherný klasicizující pomník se srdíčkem...). I am a bit puzzled about how best this expression should be rendered into English. I am a native Czech speaker however, this is the first time I have come across such an utterance. I believe it to mean a headstone with an influence of classicism however; I am not 100% sure. What is your opinion? How would you translate this?

Thank you ever so much for your suggestions.

Myska
myska
Local time: 15:48
English translation:built in the classicising style
Explanation:
It sounds ungainly, I know, but I have been assured that this is the correct translation and it comes up a lot.
Plenty of references on the internet

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Note added at 23 days (2009-11-24 18:47:09 GMT)
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classicising - imitating a classical style
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/glossary/classic... (but not only of paintings)

The Jewish cemetery in Třebíč certainly comes under this category.
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Gerry Vickers
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:48
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Thank you Gerry for the explanation. It helped a lot.
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Summary of answers provided
5klasicistní
Martin König
4 +1built in the classicising style
Gerry Vickers
3 +1pseudo-classicist style statue
Ivan Šimerka
3neo-classicist style monument
Charles Stanford
Summary of reference entries provided
Image
Stuart Hoskins

Discussion entries: 3





  

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pseudo-classicist style statue


Explanation:
Záleží i na kontextu

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Note added at 1 h (2009-11-01 18:31:35 GMT)
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Možná i: classicist style like statue

Ivan Šimerka
Czech Republic
Local time: 16:48
Native speaker of: Native in CzechCzech

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Hana Pernicova: Zalezi na kontextu: Klasicistni=z obdobi klasicismu. Pseudo=s prvky klasicismu. Neo=nove postaveny ve stylu klasicismu.
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neo-classicist style monument


Explanation:
I am no expert but think we are more inclined to talk about neo-classicist (50 000 hits)

Charles Stanford
Czech Republic
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klasicistní


Explanation:
Jsem si naprosto jistý, že žádná kamenná stavba nemůže nic ani nikoho klasicizovat. Oproti tomu "klasicistní" je běžné slovo, označující architekturu z období klasicismu.
Čili naprosto suše "a classicist monument..." end sou on.

Martin König
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built in the classicising style


Explanation:
It sounds ungainly, I know, but I have been assured that this is the correct translation and it comes up a lot.
Plenty of references on the internet

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Note added at 23 days (2009-11-24 18:47:09 GMT)
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classicising - imitating a classical style
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/glossary/classic... (but not only of paintings)

The Jewish cemetery in Třebíč certainly comes under this category.

Gerry Vickers
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
Thank you Gerry for the explanation. It helped a lot.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dylan Edwards: "Imitating a classical style, often in a self-conscious way": that's how the meaning of "classicising" has been explained to me by an art historian. It isn't interchangeable with "neo-classical".
23 days
  -> Thanks - that is how it was described to me by an art historian as well, but it seems that the asker has declined this one anyway :)
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Comment: Thank you Gerry for the explanation. It helped a lot.




Reference comments


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Reference: Image

Reference information:
There's a picture of it at http://www.mesto-trebic.cz/fotogalerie.php (second photo from left under Zidovsky hrbitov). 17th century.

Stuart Hoskins
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PRO pts in category: 8
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Asker: Thank you, so much, Stuart. I was actually trying to find this picture! Thank you, it is very helpful. How would you, approach the above discussed translation? I am enclined to translate it as "a classicits headstone" however, I am wondering whether there is a difference between "klasicizující and klasicistní". You will not find "klasicizující" in a Czech dictionary yet it does not cound odd to me and if you were to do a search on Czech internet pages than you will find it that it is used with abundance. I am not an architect but what I understand under the two terms is that the first refers to something that is could not be entirely classified as "classicist" but has much of the features that characterize this style. What do you think? I would very much appreciate your opinion on the matter.

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