Fox News Deploys The Scud Dud Sarah Palin to Stop Obamacare

Dutch translation: Fox News schiet Obamacare af met losse flodder Sarah Palin

07:59 Aug 24, 2013
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English term or phrase: Fox News Deploys The Scud Dud Sarah Palin to Stop Obamacare
In an online article: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/10/fox-news-deploys-scud...

I cannot find the exact meaning of the term (scud) dud in this context and that bothers me. Suggestions are welcome.
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
Local time: 07:50
Dutch translation:Fox News schiet Obamacare af met losse flodder Sarah Palin
Explanation:
Hoewel ongeleid projectiel ook goed is gevonden. Dit past misschien beter bij de rest van het artikel. Ik blijf dat The raar vinden. Daar moet toch iets speciaals mee worden bedoeld.
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Gerard de Noord
France
Local time: 07:50
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Summary of answers provided
3 +5Fox News schiet Obamacare af met losse flodder Sarah Palin
Gerard de Noord
4Flutse Palla
Laurens Sipahelut
3mislukte pop
Lianne van de Ven
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Article concerned
Barend van Zadelhoff

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Answers


7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
scud dud
mislukte pop


Explanation:
Ondanks "launch" zie ik niet echt de raketbetekenis van scud in deze zin, en denk ik dat het gelezen moet worden als "de op afstand aantrekkelijke vrouw" (eerste betekenis urban dict). Ik zou overwegen "mislukte pop Sarah Palin" te gebruiken, waarbij pop verwijst naar zowel mooie vrouw als marionet, en misschien ook nog een popgeluid - via "gelanceerd. Dud staat dan voor mislukking.

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Local time: 02:50
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neutral  writeaway: it is referring to a missile. dud is a term that is commonly used to refer to a missile that lands and doesn't explode. and everyone knows that a scud is the name of a missile. don't see how that can just be ignored. the word deploy is also used.
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fox news deploys the scud dud sarah palin to stop obamacare
Flutse Palla


Explanation:
'Scud' and 'dud' I think are slang words in this context, each with a separate meaning as opposed to being a phrase. Their meanings as given in Urbandictionary.com:

scud
(noun)
1. A female who appears to be attractive from a distance but is in fact unattractive when viewed closely
2. A female with an attractive body but an unattractive face
3. A female who looks attractive from behind but is unattractive from the front

1. dud
a malfunctioning or failed idea, object or instance. a unfulfilled expectation.

I think that you have a certain degree of flexibility here as far as coming up with a translation. To give you an idea, I once saw 'Diamond Dave' (the singer) translated into Dutch as 'Daverende Dave'.

stoerejongenzzz.nl provides a few useful entries:
Mislukking – Flutse
Niet waar – Palla
Onzin – Palla

which you use to construct a translation: 'Flutse Palla' (palla being a play on Palin).

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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-08-24 11:17:30 GMT)
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Het kan worden vertaald als: Fox News zet Flutse Palla Palin in om obamacare te stoppen.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2013-08-24 16:30:15 GMT)
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Een andere mogelijkheid is 'fopvuurwerk' waar 'scud' wordt weergeven in het woordje vuurwerk en 'dud' in fop. Zo maak je nog toespeling op de raket beeldspraak in de brontaal.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2013-08-24 16:33:54 GMT)
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De vertaling leest dus: 'Fox News zet flopvuurwerk Sarah Palin in om obamacare te stoppen'.

Laurens Sipahelut
Indonesia
Local time: 13:50
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Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian, Native in DutchDutch
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Asker: Hartelijk voor je discussiebijdrage.

Asker: Dank voor je bijdrage. Net als Ron ben ik bang dat veel Nederlandse lezers dit niet begrijpen.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  freekfluweel: far-fetched! "Fox rapporteert over (de) flutse palla Sarah Palin die Obamacare wil stoppen"
8 mins
  -> [...] over Flutse Palla Palin [...]. I think it has a nice ring to it.

neutral  Ron Willems: leuk gevonden, maar ik vrees dat 95% van de lezers een slangwoordenboek nodig zal hebben om het te begrijpen. ik had in elk geval nog nooit van flutse of van palla gehoord
20 mins
  -> Mischien heeft 95% van de Amerikaanse lezers ook nooit van 'scud' en 'dud' gehoord als slangwoordjes.
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Fox News schiet Obamacare af met losse flodder Sarah Palin


Explanation:
Hoewel ongeleid projectiel ook goed is gevonden. Dit past misschien beter bij de rest van het artikel. Ik blijf dat The raar vinden. Daar moet toch iets speciaals mee worden bedoeld.


    Reference: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/10/fox-news-deploys-scud...
Gerard de Noord
France
Local time: 07:50
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PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Dank voor je interessante bijdrage.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hartelijk bedankt voor je discussiebijdrage.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Laurens Sipahelut: En blijkbaar heb je 'scud dud' maar ook 'dud scud'. Wat is het verschil?
2 hrs

agree  Natasha Ziada (X): Nice!
2 hrs

agree  freekfluweel: Ik blijf "the" ook raar vinden maar vind jouw creatie heel goed!
2 hrs

agree  writeaway: fwiw. the 'the' doesn't sound odd to me. Like "the It girl Clara Bow". ongeleid projectiel is a loose cannon in English, imo.
3 hrs

neutral  Barend van Zadelhoff: 4 keer agree wat moet ik daar nog tegenin brengen :-) Als je dit wilt gebruiken zou je in de context van het artikel 'probeert' af te schieten moeten gebruiken. Verder lijkt dit moeilijk te verenigen (ook in de vertaling) met mijn laatste discussion entry
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  -> Boze Barend

agree  Ron Willems
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Reference comments


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Reference: Article concerned

Reference information:
Fox News Deploys The Scud Dud Sarah Palin to Stop Obamacare

Things have gotten to such a low point in the Republican effort to stop Obamacare that Fox News dug up Sarah Palin to repeat a far from greatest hits collection of her Obamacare lies.

The idea that healthcare will be rationed is based on the lie that Obamacare is a government takeover of healthcare. Republicans like Palin and some well paid Democrats like Howard Dean are back to fearmongering about the IPAB board, but here is what the board really does, “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act creates the 15-member Independent Payment Advisory Board to suggest ways to limit Medicare’s spending growth. It can be overruled by Congress. Its appointments will be done in public. It will not make decisions on individual cases. The board can reduce how much the government pays health care providers for services, reduce payments to hospitals with very high rates of readmissions or recommend innovations that cut wasteful spending. It may not raise premiums for Medicare beneficiaries or increase deductibles, co-insurance or co-payments. The IPAB also cannot change who is eligible for Medicare, restrict benefits or make recommendations that would raise revenue.”

What Howard Dean didn’t disclose when he came out against the IPAB board is that he now works as an adviser to a DC lobbying firm on behalf of the healthcare industry. Dean’s employers will see their profits go down if Obamacare is implemented. In short, Howard Dean isn’t to be trusted because he sold out to the healthcare industry.

The Democrats who are jumping on the death panel hysteria are all from red states or districts and are up for reelection next year. This is just another attempt by them to hold on to their seats by looking like Republican lite.

The fact that Fox News has dug up Sarah Palin to repeat her death panel lies four years after they have been debunked illustrates what a sad state of affairs the stop Obamacare movement has fallen into. * Palin isn’t a missile of truth to the heart of Obamacare. She is a dud that makes a lot of really loud noises before spinning in circles and crashing into the ocean. Sarah Palin never hits her target, and mostly manages to embarrass herself every time she speaks. *

The Alaskan Scud dud and her payload of Obamacare lies has once again failed to launch.

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.nl/2013/08/sarah-palin-do...

Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
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Asker: Hartelijk dank voor je discussiebijdrage.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Lianne van de Ven: This should really have been provided in the question, imho.
1 day 2 hrs
  -> De link is gegeven in de vraag (zie boven). Klaarblijkelijk heeft Ron W. die link bekeken voordat hij met 'ongeleid projectiel' kwam (zie zijn citaat). Ik heb die link bekeken nadat Gerard het over 'beter bij het artikel passen' had. Maar de link was er.
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