labour job

French translation: (emploi) ouvrier

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English term or phrase:labour job
French translation:(emploi) ouvrier
Entered by: Tony M

14:18 May 9, 2020
English to French translations [PRO]
Human Resources / Employment categories, Online survey
English term or phrase: labour job
CONTEXT: Categories of employment, in a survey.

'Labour job', as opposed to 'management job' (e.g. restaurant manager), 'technical/skilled trade job', 'professional job' (e.g. doctor), and 'intermediate job' (e.g. long-haul truck driver).
Examples of 'labour jobs' are : oil field worker, fruit picker, cleaning staff....
Anne-Sophie Cardinal
Canada
Local time: 22:23
ouvrier
Explanation:
'blue-collar worker'



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Note that this is specifically the term used commonly in such things as market research surveys: "Which socio-economic group are you in?"
Other terms are used in different contexts, but many would be seen as "inappropriate" in the specific context stated.
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Tony M
France
Local time: 04:23
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3ouvrier
Tony M
4 +2manœuvre / ouvrier non qualifié / ouvrier spécialisé
Alcime Steiger
4 +1travail d'ouvrier / emploi manuel
Diana Donzelli-Gaudet
4force(s) de travail
Renate Radziwill-Rall
4les cols bleus
Inès Hassan
3emploi / travail ouvrier
Hugues Roumier
3travail manuel
Ana Santos
3travail d'exécutant
Anne Bohy


Discussion entries: 1





  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
force(s) de travail


Explanation:
par rapport aux autres cités

Renate Radziwill-Rall
France
Local time: 04:23
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Not the sort of term we'd use in HR. Nor in a socio-economic group survey. / Specifically in the field of surveys? I too have practical knowledge in both HR and surveys.
1 min
  -> I am talking with practical knowledge

neutral  Daryo: in this survey they are categorising individuals - you can't say of one person that he/she is "force(s) de travail" - that would rather apply to the whole group / the whole category.
5 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
ouvrier


Explanation:
'blue-collar worker'



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Note added at 11 mins (2020-05-09 14:30:07 GMT)
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Note that this is specifically the term used commonly in such things as market research surveys: "Which socio-economic group are you in?"
Other terms are used in different contexts, but many would be seen as "inappropriate" in the specific context stated.

Tony M
France
Local time: 04:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 72

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Diana Donzelli-Gaudet
9 mins
  -> Thanks, Diana!

agree  Samuel Clarisse
2 hrs
  -> Merci, Samuel !

neutral  Daryo: I have the nagging feeling that more context is needed + it depends of what is the whole scale/range of "types of jobs" in this survey.
6 hrs
  -> I think Asker has made it pretty clear for us, by giving us the other categories — and in any case, it is a fairly standard term used in such socio-economic surveys.

agree  Maïté Mendiondo-George
23 hrs
  -> Merci, Maïté !

neutral  ph-b (X): Les chauffeurs routiers, pour reprendre l'un des ex de la q, sont aussi des ouvriers. Mais ils sont classés, tjrs selon la q, dans une autre catégorie d'ouvriers, d'où + de précision nécessaire ici./Donc pas de trad des autres catégories d'ouvriers ? Mmh.
1 day 19 mins
  -> Oui, mais dans ce genre de sondage, ils sont tous regroupés en vrac !
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
emploi / travail ouvrier


Explanation:
L'ouvrier est une personne qui loue ses services dans le cadre d'un travail industriel ou agricole en échange d'un salaire. Par définition, cette notion fait référence au statut du salariat et à l'exercice d'un travail manuel (ce qui exclut les employés de bureau).



What is a labor job?
A laborer is a person who works in manual labor types, especially in the construction and factory industries' workforce. ... Laborers work with blasting tools, hand tools, power tools, air tools, and small heavy equipment, and act as assistants to other trades as well such as operators or cement masons


Example sentence(s):
  • Although nearly any work can potentially have skill and intelligence applied to it, many jobs that mostly comprise manual labour—such as fruit and vegetable picking, manual materials handling, manual digging, or manual assembly of parts—often may be d
  • travail ouvrier : Travailleur, travailleuse qui exécute pour le compte d'autrui, moyennant salaire, un travail manuel (dans un atelier, une mine, une manufacture, une usine, ...

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouvrier#L'%C3%A9volution_du_travail_ouvrier
    https://www.linguee.fr/anglais-francais/traduction/raise+a+dispute.html
Hugues Roumier
France
Local time: 04:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
travail d'ouvrier / emploi manuel


Explanation:
Un ouvrier est quelqu'un qui travaille manuellement.


    https://www.linguee.fr/anglais-francais/traduction/labour+jobs.html
Diana Donzelli-Gaudet
Local time: 04:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lorraine Dubuc
59 mins
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
travail manuel


Explanation:
I think "manual" underlines the difference between those jobs and the other ones, even though it's not exactly the same thing


    Reference: http://https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/manuel...
Ana Santos
Brazil
Local time: 23:23
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Yes, but using 'travail' really translates 'work', whereas Asker's context specifically requires 'job'.
10 mins
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
manœuvre / ouvrier non qualifié / ouvrier spécialisé


Explanation:
Dans les indications que vous nous donner figures différentes catégories d'ouvriers et cadres. Par élimination on peut déduire que "labour job" correspond très probablement à l'ouvrier sans qualification. S'offre à nous alors possibilités à mon sens: manœuvre, ouvrier non qualifié, voire ouvrier spécialisé (de dernier ne disposant d'aucun diplôme particulier sinon une simple formation in situ pour manipuler telle ou telle outil/machine).

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Toutes mes excuses pour les fautes de frappe: "que vous nous donnez figurent"; "S'offrent à nous alors 3 possibilités à mon sens"; "ce dernier"; "sinon d'une".


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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professions_et_catégories_soci...

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On constate dans le lien ci-dessous que les agents d'entretien ou de propreté (exemple donné par Anne-Sophie de professions correspondant à "labour job") sont classés par l'INSEE comme ouvriers non qualifiés:
https://www.insee.fr/fr/metadonnees/pcsese2003/rubriqueRegro...


    https://www.insee.fr/fr/metadonnees/pcs2003/professionRegroupee/681a?champRecherche=false
    https://www.epsilon.insee.fr/jspui/bitstream/1/876/1/ip455.pdf
Alcime Steiger
France
Local time: 04:23
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ph-b (X)
1 hr
  -> Merci!

agree  GILLES MEUNIER
1 day 37 mins
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
les cols bleus


Explanation:
Un col bleu est un membre d'une classe ouvrière qui exécute un travail manuel et gagne un salaire horaire ou mensuel...... Les cols bleus se distinguent des cols blancs, dont le travail n'est pas considéré comme manuel.

Example sentence(s):
  • Vous connaissez sans doute les « cols bleus », ces ouvriers d’une entreprise au travail manuel qui se distinguent des cols blancs travaillant dans les bureaux. Mais saviez-vous que le terme « cols bleus » est également utiliser pour parler des mari

    https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualites/articles/le-saviez-vous-les-cols-bleus
Inès Hassan
Belgium
Local time: 04:23
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in ArabicArabic
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
travail d'exécutant


Explanation:
Dans le contexte indiqué

Anne Bohy
France
Local time: 04:23
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 63
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