CCTV vs. ITV

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13:41 Feb 19, 2008
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Engineering: Industrial
English term or phrase: CCTV vs. ITV
Is industrial television always CCTV?

CCTV can be applied in industrial 'environments' (factories), but also in regular shops, supermarkets and other places.
So, if I'm talking about a TV/monitoring system in a factory (industrial TV), will it always be understood as CCTV or are there other systems that are widely used for these purposes in factories (systems other than Closed-Circuit TV)?
Mariusz Stepien
Poland
Local time: 09:58
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Explanation:
CCTV is probably the commoner expression; it has certain connotations of surveillance, possible low-quality, but the basic meaning, of course, simply means that the output is not being broadcast.

I have to confess I had never before heard the expression ITV; I wonder if this is a US usage? You see, in the UK, 'ITV' means 'Independent Television' (the independent, private broadcasting network, as distinct from the BBC)

I can conceive that one might want to differentiate between a security surveillance CCTV installation comprising lots of cameras, switching, etc., and a more dedciated, point-to-point system intended, for example, for the remote surveillance of some industrial process, and of course many other more specific applications.


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Note added at 25 mins (2008-02-19 14:07:09 GMT)
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Some industrial applications require the quality of professional or broadcasting equipment, whereas CCTV has traditionally been stigmatised by low quality, often B&W, etc. No longer necessarily true today, but the stigma remains.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-02-19 17:24:28 GMT)
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Well, if that's your real question, then I would say yes, you can use CCTV for TV in industrial situations; CCTV says more about what KIND of system it is than WHERE it is being used.

I would only use the word 'industrial' in connection with TV equipment if it was to describe a grade of equipment: you know, extra-rugged for industrial applications.

If on the other hand you are merely talking about business television (i.e. the clean stuff!), as might be used by the management of some industrial company, then I would refer to it as 'corporate video OR TV'
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Tony M
France
Local time: 09:58
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and that's all the explanation I need :) thanks
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5CCTV as well
Alaa AHMED
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cctv vs. itv
CCTV as well


Explanation:
-- in industrial use

Alaa AHMED
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cctv vs. itv
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Explanation:
CCTV literally (and traditionally) means non-broadcast television using dedicated, hard-wired circuits (thus closed-circuit).
For many applications, it is now being replaced and/or complemented by network-based systems using webcams, because this avoids the need to install an (expensive) cable infrastructure.

Whether 'CCTV'' can be used to refer to network-based systems is a good question.

Ken Cox
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Asker: good point


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: I think CCTV is applicable just as long as the signal is not 'broadcast' — and even wireless network systems are presumably by definition at best 'narrowcasting'
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agree  V_Nedkov
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See comments below...


Explanation:
CCTV is probably the commoner expression; it has certain connotations of surveillance, possible low-quality, but the basic meaning, of course, simply means that the output is not being broadcast.

I have to confess I had never before heard the expression ITV; I wonder if this is a US usage? You see, in the UK, 'ITV' means 'Independent Television' (the independent, private broadcasting network, as distinct from the BBC)

I can conceive that one might want to differentiate between a security surveillance CCTV installation comprising lots of cameras, switching, etc., and a more dedciated, point-to-point system intended, for example, for the remote surveillance of some industrial process, and of course many other more specific applications.


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Note added at 25 mins (2008-02-19 14:07:09 GMT)
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Some industrial applications require the quality of professional or broadcasting equipment, whereas CCTV has traditionally been stigmatised by low quality, often B&W, etc. No longer necessarily true today, but the stigma remains.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-02-19 17:24:28 GMT)
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Well, if that's your real question, then I would say yes, you can use CCTV for TV in industrial situations; CCTV says more about what KIND of system it is than WHERE it is being used.

I would only use the word 'industrial' in connection with TV equipment if it was to describe a grade of equipment: you know, extra-rugged for industrial applications.

If on the other hand you are merely talking about business television (i.e. the clean stuff!), as might be used by the management of some industrial company, then I would refer to it as 'corporate video OR TV'

Tony M
France
Local time: 09:58
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
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and that's all the explanation I need :) thanks
Notes to answerer
Asker: ITV: exactly, that is why I wouldn't use "ITV". the question is - is it OK for me to use CCTV for industrial television in general (or does industrial television comprise CCTV and something else)...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  V_Nedkov: I had the same association for ITV
4 days
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