chandelle

English translation: Dismount with a violent push, rearing up on hind legs

16:33 Dec 19, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Science - Zoology / Visitor panel in zoological park
French term or phrase: chandelle
Une biche est en chaleur entre 24 et 48 heures. Elle éloigne alors son jeune faon et ne se dérobe plus aux avances du cerf, qui la saillit une ou plusieurs fois. Après la monte, qui dure quelques secondes, le mâle se cabre pour se dégager (il « fait la chandelle »).

Après la période du brame, les cerfs seuls s'écartent du territoire et redeviennent peu visibles.
Emma Paulay
France
Local time: 20:46
English translation:Dismount with a violent push, rearing up on hind legs
Explanation:
I live in the Scottish Highlands and there is no exact term for this. The stag mounts the deer - he jumps up and mates for a few seconds, then pushes back to disengage or dismount and, in so doing, rears up on his hind legs. Then he falls back down to earth.

The Yoga posture "la chandelle" is a shoulderstand. Perhaps the author is alluding to the stag looking like he is doing a shoulderstand. But this seems unlikely, since he is on his hind legs!

I think this is probably an idiomatic French expression (as I have seen it on other websites) for which there is no exact English equivalent.
I would explain that the stag dismounts with a violent push and rears up on his hind legs.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific.
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James Perry
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:46
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Summary of answers provided
4Dismount with a violent push, rearing up on hind legs
James Perry
2hooves akimbo
Jonathan MacKerron
2plays gooseberry
Laurence Fogarty
Summary of reference entries provided
yoga?
Sue Stewart-Anderson (X)
chandelle
Roy vd Heijden

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hooves akimbo


Explanation:
trying to envision this in my mind's eye...

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
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Asker: Thanks, Jonathan.

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Dismount with a violent push, rearing up on hind legs


Explanation:
I live in the Scottish Highlands and there is no exact term for this. The stag mounts the deer - he jumps up and mates for a few seconds, then pushes back to disengage or dismount and, in so doing, rears up on his hind legs. Then he falls back down to earth.

The Yoga posture "la chandelle" is a shoulderstand. Perhaps the author is alluding to the stag looking like he is doing a shoulderstand. But this seems unlikely, since he is on his hind legs!

I think this is probably an idiomatic French expression (as I have seen it on other websites) for which there is no exact English equivalent.
I would explain that the stag dismounts with a violent push and rears up on his hind legs.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific.

James Perry
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Thanks everyone!
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Asker: Thanks for your input James. I too suspect there is no exact equivalent.

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plays gooseberry


Explanation:
Looking at the reference below, and aligning the interpretations with your source text, then this suggestion may fit, if you are interested in keeping the phrase in the translated text. If not, then the other suggestions here will work better in my view. (Pedantic note : in rugby the phrase is 'up and under' rather than over..)


    Reference: http://www.expressio.fr/expressions/tenir-la-chandelle.php
Laurence Fogarty
Italy
Local time: 20:46
Native speaker of: English
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Asker: Thanks Laurence. I don't think this is the correct interpretation but you're right about the rugby term. My mistake!

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Reference comments


21 mins
Reference: yoga?

Reference information:
faire la candelle is a candle position or shoulder stand in yoga (and the Kama sutra!) - but also see the web reference for more info relevant to animal behaviour


    Reference: http://www.oiseau-libre.net/Animaux/Animaux-sauvages/Petits-...
Sue Stewart-Anderson (X)
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
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Asker: Yes, I thought of both yoga and rugby...but neither are useful I don't think. The stag rears up on his hind legs.

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Reference: chandelle

Reference information:
« Quand la femelle est prête, l'accouplement est bref et plutôt violent. Le cerf monte les pattes avant sur le dos de la biche qui dans cette position semble bien frêle. Le rapport se termine ensuite par une poussée du cerf appelée "la chandelle" qui propulse la femelle en avant lui permettant ainsi de se retirer. »
(http://dehondt-desmets.over-blog.com/article-la-complainte-d...

«Une fois l'accouplement terminé avec une femelle, le cerf effectue la "chandelle", un coup de pied spectaculaire qui lui permet de se retirer du corps de la femme, propulsant celle-ci en avant. »
(http://www.lozere-resa.com/lozere/brame-du-cerf.php)

« Une fois l’accouplement terminé, le mâle réalise la « chandelle », une ruade spectaculaire pour se dégager, propulsant la femelle en avant. »
(http://www.dinosoria.com/cerf.htm)

Roy vd Heijden
Belgium
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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Asker: Thanks, Roy.

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