Sep 22, 2017 17:22
6 yrs ago
Spanish term

socavones de la justicia

Spanish to English Social Sciences Government / Politics
FRom a text by a Peruvian feminist.

Pero ¿de qué está hecha esta montaña en la que aún en la cima no podemos descansar? ¿Quiénes han construido teorías para alzar y sostener sus estructuras? ¿Quiénes manejan los socavones de la justicia y quiénes los ríos de las comunicaciones que la refuerzan?

miscarriage of justice??

Thanks

Discussion

Helena Chavarria Sep 22, 2017:
@Wendy I've never heard 'socavón' translated as 'miscarriage', though it might have a different meaning in South America.

'Socavón' means 'hole', 'sinkhole', 'pit' or 'cavern'.

http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=soca...

Proposed translations

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pitfalls of justice

Another option that sort of fits with the mountain/river metaphor...

pit = pozo / fall= caer -> pitfall

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pitfall

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<<What is this mountain made of, on whose summit we still cannot rest? ¿Who built the theories to raise and sustain its structures? ¿Who manages the pitfalls of justice and who the rivers of communications that reinforce it?>>
Example sentence:

An inside view of the pitfalls of justice...

... working to alert American women to the pitfalls of justice within Judaic law

Peer comment(s):

agree Marcelo González : fits rather well, indeed :-)
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Cheers, MG :-)
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Spanish term (edited): los socavones de la justicia

the undermining of justice

socavón noun, masculine
hole n
sinkhole n
tunnel n



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Peru: Undermining Justice - Al Jazeera English
www.aljazeera.com/programmes/peopleandpower/2012/.../201253...
6 Dec 2012 - With global demand for natural resources increasing year on year, some of the world's poorest communities are having to fight hard to protect ...


Corruption undermining Justice.pdf - Families Link International
www.familieslink.co.uk/download/july07/Corruption undermini...
Corruption 'undermining' justice. Russia and Argentina have been named by a corruption watchdog as countries where political interference in the judicial ...

BBC NEWS | Europe | Corruption 'undermining' justice
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6687303.stm
24 May 2007 - Berlin-based Transparency International says corruption is also undermining justice in many parts of the world. In a new report, the group says ..

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Collins
socavar vt
1 (=minar) to undermine
2 (=excavar)
[persona] to dig under
[agua] to hollow out
3 (=debilitar) to sap, undermi

http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/socavar
Peer comment(s):

agree Katie Auffinger : A lot of hits for the verb: socavar/undermine justice, democracy, sovereignty, etc.
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agree neilmac : Undermining... a string of metaphors like this is always a teaser... :)
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agree patinba
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agree Alex Ossa : nice :)
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[who] keeps subverting/sabotaging/undermining the judicial process

The fact that it's plural in Spanish means (to me) that it's a repeated ongoing process that needs to be reflected in the translation.

Also, I think 'judicial process' helps to make the idea more concrete.
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