Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

civil electrical works

German translation:

Tiefbau- und Elektroarbeiten / Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau

Added to glossary by Bianca Schönhofer
Oct 29, 2014 10:23
9 yrs ago
English term

civil electrical works

English to German Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
Aus dem Memorandum of Association einer nigerianischen Gesellschaft:

"The objects for which the company is established are: [...]
To carry on business of ***civil electrical works***, construction works, civil works, repairs and road rehabilitation works, maintenance and demolition of building construction works, alterations, mechanical works, borehole drilling, pipeline welding, technical works [...]"

Ich finde "civil/electrical works" immer nur getrennt im Sinne von "Bau- und Elektroarbeiten".

Hat jemand andere Ideen? Danke!

Discussion

Steffen Walter Nov 9, 2014:
@ Murad I do see your point, but I did not 'pro-actively' ask Bianca but merely responded to her request. That's a big difference in my opinion.
Murad AWAD Nov 9, 2014:
KudoZ rule number 3.6 Dear Bianca,
I am very happy to read that Steffen did not influence your decision in any way.

Dear Steffen,
You can agree with an answer or you can disagree with it. You can give your own answer. Within KudoZ rules you can not ask from a person to give points to a specific person, this is not allowed. i.e. you can not say for the asker:
Gib doch Andreas Müller die Punkte. Seine Antwort ist nah genug dran und erwähnt auch "Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau.

This is not allowed and it its against the rule number 3.6

You can agree with Herr Müller answer or you can disagree with hıs answer, but it is not allowed for you ask from Frau Bianca to give her points to Herr Müller or someone else.

This point should be clear for you.

Please do not repeat this action again.

Kind regards,

Murad
Bianca Schönhofer (asker) Nov 8, 2014:
Dear Murad,

I have to agree with Steffen here. He did not influence my decision in any way. In fact, I had already made my decision and was merely giving him the opportunity to post his answer for points, which he declined. I don't see anything wrong with that?
Steffen Walter Nov 8, 2014:
Misunderstanding Dear Murad,

Please look at this discussion again. My reply was nothing but a gentle reaction to the asker herself, who wrote: "@Steffen: Eigentlich stünden dir die Punkte zu. Möchtest du deinen Vorschlag noch als Antwort posten?" Rather than posting my own answer, I stepped back and pointed out that Andreas' answer was appropriate. So are you still considering my response a 'violation'?
Murad AWAD Nov 8, 2014:
KudoZ rules Dear Steffen,

You are violating a clear KudoZ rule.
KudoZ rule number 3.6
No attempt may be made to influence others' decisions. Encouraging an asker to choose one's own suggested translation, or peers to agree with one's own answers and/or disagree with answers provided by others, is prohibited.

Your note to Bianca is very clear:
Gib doch Andreas Müller die Punkte. Seine Antwort ist nah genug dran und erwähnt auch "Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau"

Now, if you insist at your attitude, than administrative actions will be taken against you.

Kind regards,

Murad AWAD
Steffen Walter Nov 8, 2014:
KudoZ rules Dear Murad,

Please re-read the rule you cited: nowhere does it say that it is prohibited to encourage the asker to choose an answer submitted by another colleague instead of one's own answer. You seem to have missed the spirit of this rule, which is to prevent self-promotion of answers/peer grades.
Murad AWAD Nov 8, 2014:
KudoZ rules Dear Steffen, KudoZ rule number 3.6
No attempt may be made to influence others' decisions. Encouraging an asker to choose one's own suggested translation, or peers to agree with one's own answers and/or disagree with answers provided by others, is prohibited.
Steffen Walter Nov 3, 2014:
@ Bianca Gib doch Andreas Müller die Punkte. Seine Antwort ist nah genug dran und erwähnt auch "Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau".
Bianca Schönhofer (asker) Nov 3, 2014:
Vielen Dank an alle! Ich habe mich nun für "Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau" entschieden. Da die Übersetzung beglaubigt war, wollte ich nichts weglassen, und die Genauigkeit war mir in diesem Fall wichtiger als die sprachliche Eleganz.
@Steffen: Eigentlich stünden dir die Punkte zu. Möchtest du deinen Vorschlag noch als Antwort posten?
Wolfgang Hummel Oct 29, 2014:
@ Steffen ja, da könntest Du recht haben. Trotzdem würde ich "civil" einfach weglassen und das Ganze neutral als "Elektroarbeiten" übersetzen.
Steffen Walter Oct 29, 2014:
Vorsicht "Civil electrical works" könnte im Zusammenhang dieser Aufzählung durchaus für Elektroarbeiten/-installationen im Bereich Tiefbau stehen (siehe auch die "civil works" danach - kurz für "civil engineering works", also im engeren Sinne Tiefbauarbeiten im Gegensatz zu "building construction" = "Hochbau"). Mit dem Gegensatzpaar "public" vs. "private" hat das hier m. E. nichts zu tun.
Wolfgang Hummel Oct 29, 2014:
Ich würde das "civil" einfach weglassen. Es geht hier um Elektroarbeiten für Private (nicht öffentliche Unternehmen) etc. Gemeint ist hier nur der Gegensatz zu öffentlichen Aufträgen.

Proposed translations

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Tiefbau- und Elektroarbeiten

Es sind eigentlich Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau, aber irgendwie sagt man das nicht so. Daher der Vorschlag. Für die folgenden "civil works" könnte man mit leichter Unterscheidung Tiefbaumaßnahmen sagen.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Ich habe am Ende doch "Elektroarbeiten im Bereich Tiefbau" geschrieben, auch wenn die Formulierung etwas umständlicher ist. Vielen Dank!"
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Elektroarbeiten (innerhalb und außerhalb)

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Civil & Electrical Works
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Civil & Electrical Works
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TENDER DOCUMENTS FOR
Construction of civil , electrical works for 4 nos. level - II & 5 nos. level - III trauma centers in various districts in state of Biha
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12.0 ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS:
12.1 GENERAL:
This section covers the general requirements for electrical work to be installed under this specification.
The Contractor shall supply and install all electric wiring, switchgear etc., necessary for the complete, safe and satisfactory operation of the plant covered by the Specification. All electrical wiring and cables shall be properly tagged to the satisfaction of the Owner.
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12.2 ELECTRICAL SUPPLY :
The electricity supply shall be 415/240 Volts, 50 Hz, 3 phase, 4 wire. … All cables, equipments shall be so connected as to ensure that the load on phases are balanced and as per specification given in CPWD-Electrical works
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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
NON SCHEDULE ITEMS
INTERNAL ELECTRICAL WORKS
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3 - CONDUITS : ...
4 – WIRES :..
5 - COAXIAL CABLES : ...
6 – LAYING OF CONDUITS :
• Conduits shall be laid either recessed in walls and ceilings or on surface on walls and ceilings or partly recessed and partly on surface, as required …
6.2 SURFACE CONDUITING :
• Wherever so desired, conduit shall be laid in surface over finished concrete and/or plastered brickwork. …
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6.9 LOOP EARTHING:
Loop earthing shall be provided by means of insulated stranded copper conductor wires of sizes as per Schedule of Quantity laid along with wiring inside conduits for all wiring outlets and submains.
Earthing terminals shall be provided inside all switch boxes, outlet boxes and draw boxes etc.
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9.3.1 WIRING FOR LIGHTS : ...
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9.3.5 WIRING FOR TELEPHONE OUTLETS : …
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0.1 INSTALLATION COMPLETION TESTS:
1 At the completion of the work, the entire installation shall be subject to the following tests:
1. Wiring continuity test
2. Insulation resistance test
3. Earth continuity test
4. Earth resistivity test
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B - MEDIUM VOLTAGE DISTRIBUTION BOARDS :
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4 - FINAL DISTRIBUTION BOARDS :

A - MV CABLES
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3.3 DUCT SYSTEM
Wherever specified such as road crossing, entry to building or in paved area etc. cables shall be laid in under ground ducts. The duct system shall consists of a required number of stone ware pipes, GI, CI or spun reinforced concrete pipe with simplex joints and all the jointing work shall be done according to the CPWD building specifications or as per the instructions of the Engineer-In-Charge as the case may be. …
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3.4 CABLES IN OUTDOOR TRENCHES:
Cable shall be laid in outdoor trenches wherever called for. …
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B – EARTHING
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2 - EARTHING SYSTEMS
It shall comprise of earth electrodes, earth strips, earth continuity conductor and all earthing conductors shall be of high conductivity copper, GI or aluminium and shall be protected against mechanical damage and corrosion.
http://www.tcil-india.com/tender/12C684_1.pdf


Fazit: ein offensichtlich typisch indischer Ausdruck, der sich auf Elektroarbeiten in und außerhalb von Gebäuden bezieht.

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