Jul 20, 2005 17:46
18 yrs ago
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German term
Rumpfmotor
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Automotive / Cars & Trucks
"Austausch- bzw. Rumpfmotoren" is the heading for information on handling warranty claims. Includes instructions for returning engines to the manufacturer.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | bare engine |
Mario Marcolin
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| 4 +2 | short block |
Teresa Reinhardt
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| 4 | enginge without attached parts |
swisstell
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| 4 | short engine |
petrolhead
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Proposed translations
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Mario Marcolin
Sweden
Sweden
Native in English
Specializes in field
Sweden
Words are forever...
Native in: Swedish 
, English
Works in: English to Swedish, German to Swedish, French to Swedish, and 4 more.
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bare engine
AFAIK this would be a complete engine without add-ons such as alternator and turbo
a short engine on the other hand is a motorblock fitted with pistons and rings, cam bearings, crankshaft and bearings.
http://www.nagl.ch/technik/zeichnungen/motor/motorvollstaend...
a short engine on the other hand is a motorblock fitted with pistons and rings, cam bearings, crankshaft and bearings.
http://www.nagl.ch/technik/zeichnungen/motor/motorvollstaend...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks. That's they way I see it too. A Rumpfmotor is more than a short block/engine."
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13 mins
petrolhead
Poland
Poland
Specializes in field
Poland
Automotive tEXtPERT
Native in: Polish
Works in: English to Polish, German to Polish, Polish to English, and 2 more.
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181
short engine
"the old engine plant at Chemnitz has so far been used for production of the EA 111 (1,05/1,3 l) Polo short engine (Rumpfmotor)."
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/lex/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?ur...
"When building up a short engine to a complete assembly, it is essential to thoroughly examine every part you intend to reuse. We recommend that you pay special attention to the camshaft, followers, pushrods & rocker gear, checking carefully for signs of wear; reusing worn parts is false economy and you risk contaminating your new engine with abrasive particles."
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/v8engine/eng-short#...
"Short engines are sold on an exchange basis (except certain new short engines). The old unit must be a suitable type (1980 onwards) otherwise a surcharge will apply."
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/v8engine/eng-short
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/lex/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?ur...
"When building up a short engine to a complete assembly, it is essential to thoroughly examine every part you intend to reuse. We recommend that you pay special attention to the camshaft, followers, pushrods & rocker gear, checking carefully for signs of wear; reusing worn parts is false economy and you risk contaminating your new engine with abrasive particles."
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/v8engine/eng-short#...
"Short engines are sold on an exchange basis (except certain new short engines). The old unit must be a suitable type (1980 onwards) otherwise a surcharge will apply."
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/v8engine/eng-short
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41 mins
Teresa Reinhardt
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Known for top notch work, on time
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English, English to German, English, and 1 more.
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314
short block
seems to be the more common (US) term;
also get way more native web hits on Google
also get way more native web hits on Google
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Christiane Rose (X)
: This is what "Schmitt - Fachwörterbuch der Kfz-Technik" says.
15 mins
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Thanks, Christiane; so do the egine manufacturers I work for
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Kim Metzger
: That's what Langenscheidt Technik says, too.
55 mins
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Thanks, Kim; now it's official ;-)))
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Discussion
short block = bare engine including the block, crankshaft, and pistons, but not including the HEAD, manifold ...
long block = bare engine including the block, HEAD, valves, crankshaft, camshaft, and pistons, but not manifold ...
Rumpfmotor = block, crankshaft, pistons, connecting rods and bearings, and HEAD
"Umgangssprachlich wird auch der Verbrennungsmotor eines Kraftfahrzeuges als ganzes als "Motorblock" bezeichnet. Damit ist der gesamte Motor als Einheit gemeint, also der eigentliche Motorblock, erg�nzt um seine Einbauten von Kurbelwelle, Kolben und Pleuel mit allen Lagern, sowie der Zylinderkopf mitsamt Innereien. Die korrekte Bezeichnung hierf�r jedoch ist Rumpfmotor."
Doesn't that make a Rumpfmotor a "long block"?
Support also comes from the Verband der Motoreninstandsetzungsbetriebe e.V. at:
http://www.vmi-ev.de/aktuelles.htm
where they try to clear up descrepancies in engine designations:
" 2.2.2. Umfang der Lieferung
1. Komplettmotor
Dieser Motor ist mit allen zum Motor geh�renden Nebenaggregaten auszustatten.
2. Teilmotor
Beim Teilmotor mu� nochmals in Rumpfmotor und Short Block unterschieden werden.
1. Rumpfmotor
Dieser Motor besitzt keine Nebenaggregate wie z.B. Z�ndanlage, Vergaser oder Einspritzpumpe, Wasser-und Kraftstoffpumpe, L�fter u.v.m.
2. Short Block synonym dazu "splintfertiger Motor", veraltet
Hauptkennzeichen dieses Motors ist die Auslieferung ohne Zylinderkopf und Nebenaggregate. Weitere Bauteile k�nnen fehlen."
So a Rumpfmotor isn't a short block?!
As also seen here:
http://www.nfz-werkstatt.de/home/nfz_katalog/motor.pdf
But I'm also seeing alot of Rumpfmotor being translated as short block...
Any comments? Help?