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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

relation paternelle particuliere

English translation:

out of the ordinary/peculiar relationship with her father

Added to glossary by liz askew
Mar 20, 2007 15:47
17 yrs ago
French term

relation paternelle particuliere

Non-PRO French to English Medical Medical (general) Emotional support
This is from a handwritten report from a health professional giving support to a patient suffering from polytrauma following a road traffic accident.

Themes/Réactions:

Histoire de Vie: Relation paternelle particuliere. Mere décedée lorsqu'elle avait 4 ans; accident.

Préoccupations pour la chirurgie prévue pour demain.

Humeur anxieuse.

Does it mean that she had a special relationship with her father?

Thank you for any help/advice.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 special (or particularly close) relationship with her father
4 +2 particular relationship with the father

Discussion

liz askew (asker) Mar 22, 2007:
Hello Emma, Yes this did occur to me later on yesterday. "Peculiar".
Emma Paulay Mar 21, 2007:
Hi, I under it doesn't matter but I just have to say I think Manu's right in that this word often has negative connotations, as does "spécial". Here, it probably means something more like "peculiar".
liz askew (asker) Mar 21, 2007:
For the record: I have 30,000 words to translate here, and "particuliere" comes up just the once. I don't think it is worth worrying about, particularly as this translation is not a psychiatric/psychology report! And, to put it bluntly, the solicitors reading this translation (insurance claim following a RTA) will probably not even notice it!
Drmanu49 Mar 20, 2007:
I have read the refs and it was just to show that the expression is used. as in "who has a particular relationship to her brothers' children".
But it is "particularly close" which I find wrong.
Dr Sue Levy (X) Mar 20, 2007:
Also Manu, you would do well to actually read the refs you give - in several, "particular" is used in the sense of "this relationship we're talking about" or a "given relationship".
Dr Sue Levy (X) Mar 20, 2007:
I'm agreeing with "special" which doesn't mean good or bad. "Particular relationship" is just not idiomatic to my ear. Given the context though, if the relationship WAS bad, I would expect the person writing the report to have said so.
Drmanu49 Mar 20, 2007:
Once again I totally disagree with Sheila (and Sue if she goes that way). Unless you have more context, the relationship could be bad. She could blame her father for her mother's death etc.
liz askew (asker) Mar 20, 2007:
Thank you!
Dr Sue Levy (X) Mar 20, 2007:
yes, special relationship

Proposed translations

+1
3 hrs
Selected

special (or particularly close) relationship with her father

or simply particularly close to her father
Peer comment(s):
agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : this is the most idiomatic expression
1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. "Special" in UK En."
+2
3 mins

particular relationship with the father

This acquisition of new data about Schreber's father and his peculiar methods, ... father or mother, with whom the child had the particular relationship. ...
pep-web.org/document.php?id=PAQ.029.0302A -

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Note added at 1 heure (2007-03-20 17:14:23 GMT)
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or special relationship but it is not as explicit as particuliar.

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Note added at 3 heures (2007-03-20 19:27:57 GMT)
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Actually this term is applied only to the father's eldest sister, who has a particular relationship to her brothers' children and a magical power to curse ...
www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-MacToke-t1-body-d1-d3-d2.htm... - 22k -

the relationship between the emotionally absent father and his chemically ... distance in this particular relationship, it will be beneficial to treat this ...
etd.uj.ac.za/theses/available/etd-12072004-091020/restricted/CHAPTER5.pdf -

... measures that attempt to assess attachment within a particular relationship. ... The self-selfobject relationship with her father was reversed, ...
www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=psp.016.0199a

To define and study an emotional absent father, a chemically dependent ... as well as to act preventatively with regard to this particular relationship; and ...
etd.rau.ac.za/theses/available/etd-12072004-091020/ - 16k
Peer comment(s):
agree Swatchka
25 mins
Thank you.
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
1 hr
Thank you Vicky.
neutral Sheila Wilson : I'm not sure that you can use particular in this way in English - it smacks of a faux-ami usage to me // Most of the hits mean specific or peculiar
3 hrs
Not really, lots of Ghits (see my refs), but I also mentioned special as suggested by Sue. I still prefer particular.
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