Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

benjamín

English translation:

small bottle of \"cava\" (Spanish champagne)

Added to glossary by María T. Vargas
Jan 4, 2008 15:12
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Spanish term

benjamín

Spanish to English Social Sciences General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters prizes
This is either

1)something that Gold Members at Weight Watchers Spain get when they reach their target weight -in the US it is usually a key ring. I'm thinking this might be a little statue -or even a word for key ring that I'm not familiar with...the dictionary gives "little bottle", but I don't see how that would be a very desireable prize

or

2)something not related to the Gold Member prize (which could be included in the Gold Member kit), but an additional thing that the members happen to be getting at the same time they're getting their prizes ...anybody know???

"Llevar un kit de Socia de Oro y un benjamín para cada Candidata y recordarlas que aunque ... "
Change log

Jan 4, 2008 17:07: María T. Vargas changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/97969">Lisa Mann's</a> old entry - "benjamín"" to ""small bottle of \"cava\" (Spanish champagne)""

Discussion

Lisa Mann (asker) Jan 4, 2008:
I'm sure it's a small bottle of cava As I said, they are long-time members of Weight Watchers who are now being trained to lead their own meetings. They are away for a training weekend at a hotel, they would not be assigned new members because they are not all from the same area or group and they are at an all-expense-paid training session, not just an ordinary meeting. And in Spain, as you all know, there's never a good reason not to drink cava :)
AllegroTrans Jan 4, 2008:
Cava and Champagne
Glass of Cava – £6.00 or Glass of Champagne – £8.00
110 Extra Petit Brut (Benjamin – 20cl) If you want just one glass then this is the bottle for you – £10.00
111 Castellblanch Cristal Brut Light and clean with good fizz – £15.00
112 Castellblanch Rosado Brut Good, pink fizz £18.00
113 Brut Zero Reserva Aged for two years. Soft with a nice finish – £20.00
114 Dos Lustros Vintage Full bodied with lots of character – £25.00
115 Montesquius Reserva
AllegroTrans Jan 4, 2008:
I have just Googled for this and Maria is right. It is a 20 cl. bottle. The following is from the website of a restaurant in Henley on Thames (where they obviouslt know about such things!)
Lydia De Jorge Jan 4, 2008:
Regardless of size, it still encourages drinking. If it's a 'bribe' for people to come back, why not discounts, coupons or gift certificates? WW also has numerous clothing items such as tshirts and sweat pants that they could give away. I just find it odd
AllegroTrans Jan 4, 2008:
Surely it's only a "teeny weeny" bottle and a bribe to get them to come back, perhaps?
Lydia De Jorge Jan 4, 2008:
I agree with teju - giving the members 'cava' is defeating the purpose..I still think it refers to a 'new' member assigned to a 'goldmember' as a mentor or guide.
teju Jan 4, 2008:
If María is correct, and a benjamín is a small bottle of cava, then these poor people could go from the Weight Watchter's meetings to AA meetings. :))) I thought that low calorie diets avoided alcoholic drinks.
AllegroTrans Jan 4, 2008:
How intriguing. Giving away human beings at Weight Watcher's meetings... has anyone reported them to the Authorities yet, or is it a secret society?....
Lisa Mann (asker) Jan 4, 2008:
full context This is a training booklet for Weight Watchers leaders. In this section of the training they're learning how to grant members Gold Member status while becoming honorary Gold Members themselves. The benjamín in this case is definitely not a person because the trainer has to hand out one to each of the candidates...
Llevar un kit de Socia de Oro y un benjamín para cada Candidata y recordarlas que aunque no han llegado a su peso, merecen el kit completo ya que lo que hacen este fin de semana es muy especial
Lydia De Jorge Jan 4, 2008:
Can you give the full context? I've never heard of 'benjamin' meaning small bottle..as far as I know it usually refers to the youngest member of a family. It occurs to me that it might be referring to the NEWEST member..
Lisa Mann (asker) Jan 4, 2008:
Yeah, the spanish WW site isn't as complete as the US or UK one and there's no mention of the benjamín or even of Gold Members as far as I could see...
AllegroTrans Jan 4, 2008:
Have you tried going to the Weight Watcher's Spain website??

Proposed translations

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small bottle of "cava" (Spanish champagne)

It's definitely a small bottle of champagne. Probably the name is used because in Spanish "benjamín" is used for the younger member of a family, specially a young child. Good luck.

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-01-04 16:37:35 GMT) Post-grading
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Codorniú, who produces "benjamin" in Catalonia, say in their web page that this "cava" is less alcoholic than the regular ones and is often used at bars and cafeterias as an "introduction" to this kind of Spanish champagne, to sort of "train" those who drink it to become potential "cava" habitués. However, I also find it strange that Weight Watchers give it as a prize, but you know that even many doctors say that one glass of wine with your meals is fine. And "benjamin" is small and won't give much more.
Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans : I sincerely hope it is champagne and not a defenceless child!
6 mins
Thanks, dear. I can assure you don't bottle young children in Spain! ha, ha.
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