Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
vase caréné
English translation:
carinated vase
Added to glossary by
Gabrielle Leyden
Sep 17, 2008 09:46
15 yrs ago
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French term
vase caréné
French to English
Science
Archaeology
medieval pottery
A vase (or bowl) that tapers from some point above, below, or near the middle to its base, which is smaller, like the keel (carène) of a ship. See picture on www.archeologie-et-patrimoine.com/ArtBlog/ArcheoBlog/Cultur... (possibly PDF - the ending was cut off the page) TIA! GL
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | carinated vase |
Magen O'Farrell
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| 4 +1 | bowl with a carinated body |
Patrick Fischer (X)
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| 5 | carinated ("keel-like" or "ridged") vase or bowl |
Christopher Crockett
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| 2 | streamlined/carinate(d) vase |
mimi 254
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Proposed translations
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carinated vase
See the email I sent to you for more explanation. Now that I read your post here, I see that you already understand that the term refers to the keel of a boat. In archaeology, in English, we use the term "carinated" or "carination". Or, depending on the context, you could say, as someone else proposed, "with a carinated body".
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Comment: "thanks to everyone"
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bowl with a carinated body
with a wide, tall neck and carinated body
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/02/waa/ho_64.286.5.htm
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/02/waa/ho_64.286.5.htm
Peer comment(s):
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Christopher Crockett
: Works, *if* it's a question of a "bowl" rather than a "vase" (in English). Thanks for the link --now I have some vague idea of what this thing might look like.
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Thank you, Christopher!
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streamlined/carinate(d) vase
caréné: carinate
1. having a keel or projecting longitudinal lmedial line on the lower surface
caréné: streamlined
2. specialement conçu, destiné pour offrir peu de resitance à l'air
Termium
2 hrs
Christopher Crockett
Native in English
Specializes in field
M.A., Ph.D. Historian/Art Historian
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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carinated ("keel-like" or "ridged") vase or bowl
Magen's answer is certainly correct, but I've never seen this term before --however, it's not really my field and it may well be quite common and well known among archeologists and certainly among pottery specialists.
So, if your audience is not familiar with this rather technical term, you might want to add a bit of explanation, e.g., "keel-like" or "ridged" (in quotes).
Even this, however, will be difficult for the non-specialist to envision.
Your link
http://www.archeologie-et-patrimoine.com/ArtBlog/ArcheoBlog/...
doesn't work for me so, in fact, I have no real idea what the artifact looks like --perhaps "bowl" might be more appropriate than "vase."
Here's the Oxford English Dictionary on
CARINATE, verb
Hence carinated ppl. a., keeled, ridged; also of pottery (cf. CARINATION); = CARINATE a.; carinating ppl. a., ? forming a carina; carination, a keel-like formation, ridging resembling a keel.
1698 J. PETIVER in Phil. Trans. XX. 324 The Stalk is round and carinated.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 84. 228 Two threads whose prominence slightly carinates each whorl.
1788 GRAY in Phil. Trans. LXXIX. 28 Carinated scales..a character of venomous Serpents.
1846 DANA Zooph. 384 The twelve large carinating lamellæ.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 82. 117 Each whorl..projects in an angular carination.
1881 ibid. No. 87. 411 The line of the tubercles forms a rather acute carination.
1936 Oxoniensia I. 49 This contained pottery of the first century, including a carinated bowl with cordons.
Ibid. 60 Bowl with heavy moulded rim and slight carination at base.
1937 Proc. Prehist. Soc. III. 338 The commonest grave-vessel is a plain carinated bowl with pronounced shoulder. 1963 H. N. SAVORY in Foster & Alcock Culture & Environment iii. 35 The fine, carinated bowls of Clegyr-boia.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-17 12:49:14 GMT)
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Presumably Patrick's link gives us some vague idea of what your artifact might look like (?).
So, if your audience is not familiar with this rather technical term, you might want to add a bit of explanation, e.g., "keel-like" or "ridged" (in quotes).
Even this, however, will be difficult for the non-specialist to envision.
Your link
http://www.archeologie-et-patrimoine.com/ArtBlog/ArcheoBlog/...
doesn't work for me so, in fact, I have no real idea what the artifact looks like --perhaps "bowl" might be more appropriate than "vase."
Here's the Oxford English Dictionary on
CARINATE, verb
Hence carinated ppl. a., keeled, ridged; also of pottery (cf. CARINATION); = CARINATE a.; carinating ppl. a., ? forming a carina; carination, a keel-like formation, ridging resembling a keel.
1698 J. PETIVER in Phil. Trans. XX. 324 The Stalk is round and carinated.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 84. 228 Two threads whose prominence slightly carinates each whorl.
1788 GRAY in Phil. Trans. LXXIX. 28 Carinated scales..a character of venomous Serpents.
1846 DANA Zooph. 384 The twelve large carinating lamellæ.
1880 WATSON in Jrnl. Linn. Soc. XV. No. 82. 117 Each whorl..projects in an angular carination.
1881 ibid. No. 87. 411 The line of the tubercles forms a rather acute carination.
1936 Oxoniensia I. 49 This contained pottery of the first century, including a carinated bowl with cordons.
Ibid. 60 Bowl with heavy moulded rim and slight carination at base.
1937 Proc. Prehist. Soc. III. 338 The commonest grave-vessel is a plain carinated bowl with pronounced shoulder. 1963 H. N. SAVORY in Foster & Alcock Culture & Environment iii. 35 The fine, carinated bowls of Clegyr-boia.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-17 12:49:14 GMT)
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Presumably Patrick's link gives us some vague idea of what your artifact might look like (?).
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