May 11, 2009 23:01
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United States
servicios para autores académicos
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
unos y otros
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
In the first instance, I think that I can safely use "each" but I'm not certain what to do with the other 3 instances:
... considera, por su parte, que las divergencias entre el régimen migratorio propio de los países del Sur de Europa y los tradicionalmente receptores de inmigración de la Europa continental del Norte se pueden explicar también haciendo referencia a las principales diferencias en cuanto a las políticas migratorias que emprenden los gobiernos de ***unos y otros*** subconjuntos de países (1998), pero también son diferentes las circunstancias sociopolíticas y económicas de los principales países expulsores de población hacia estos destinos, así como las posibilidades que ***unos y otros*** inmigrantes tienen para derribar los obstáculos legales para la entrada en ***unos y otros*** países de destino dentro del ámbito europeo. .... Este hecho ha implicado una convergencia acelerada de las estrategias políticas para el control migratorio entre ***unos y otros*** países meridionales y también un énfasis por parte de la agencia europea de fronteras, el FRONTEX, en la vigilancia de las fronteras marítimas.
... considera, por su parte, que las divergencias entre el régimen migratorio propio de los países del Sur de Europa y los tradicionalmente receptores de inmigración de la Europa continental del Norte se pueden explicar también haciendo referencia a las principales diferencias en cuanto a las políticas migratorias que emprenden los gobiernos de ***unos y otros*** subconjuntos de países (1998), pero también son diferentes las circunstancias sociopolíticas y económicas de los principales países expulsores de población hacia estos destinos, así como las posibilidades que ***unos y otros*** inmigrantes tienen para derribar los obstáculos legales para la entrada en ***unos y otros*** países de destino dentro del ámbito europeo. .... Este hecho ha implicado una convergencia acelerada de las estrategias políticas para el control migratorio entre ***unos y otros*** países meridionales y también un énfasis por parte de la agencia europea de fronteras, el FRONTEX, en la vigilancia de las fronteras marítimas.
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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
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468
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(1) the respective (2) individual (3) the various (4) some of the
I would handle each occurrence differently, depending on the context.
Is this a transcription of spoken text? If so, the imprecise style is understandable.
Is this a transcription of spoken text? If so, the imprecise style is understandable.
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Comment: "I wish I could split the pts between Jack and Muriel. Thank you both for all the invaluable help. (And no, Muriel, it isn't a transcript just wordy writing.) I think I'm going with (1) various (2) individual (3) various (4) some of the ... "
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Laudable Lady Linguist
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
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some
HTH
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James A. Walsh
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
Spain
A cut above the rest in translation...
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, US, UK) , Spanish (Variants: Latin American, Standard-Spain)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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each other's
as I understand it.
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Note added at 32 mins (2009-05-11 23:34:12 GMT)
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Perhaps "each other's respective" might work too...
each other's respective subsets of countries, each other's respective immigrants, each other's respective destination countries...
Might be a bit "wordy" though...
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Note added at 32 mins (2009-05-11 23:34:12 GMT)
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Perhaps "each other's respective" might work too...
each other's respective subsets of countries, each other's respective immigrants, each other's respective destination countries...
Might be a bit "wordy" though...
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euge bellini
Uruguay
Uruguay
Native in Spanish
Uruguay
Translator with scientific background
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Uruguayan, Latin American, Panamanian)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
each and everyone
another thought....maybe you can put it differently each time
like"all parties involved", "each and everyone", "all of them"...
just an idea :)
like"all parties involved", "each and everyone", "all of them"...
just an idea :)
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Any, any, the various
In both the second and third occurrence I'd simply go for "any":"...as the chances that any immigrant stands of overcoming the legal hurdles/obstacles of gaining entry to any country of the European area". For the third occurrence I'd use "the various": "this fact entailed a speedy agreement on political strategies concerned with migratory controls amongst the various Southern countries as well as..." Each is perfectly fine to use in the very first instance - as you suggest.
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Richard McDorman
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Miami, Florida USA
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Latin to English, English
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any and other
This is an example where the translation into English at first appears more difficult because English makes no distinction between singular and plural adjectives. I think that this is what is causing the confusion.
The highly idiomatic "any and other" fits best in this (legalistic) context.
The highly idiomatic "any and other" fits best in this (legalistic) context.
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jack_speak
Native in English
Works in field
Competent, diligent, thorough, complete.
Native in: English
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English
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the various / potential / one or another / the various
This is my suggestion. (I shortened the text just to make it easier for my suggestions to stand out.) Otherwise, another approach that works reasonably well is pallavik's, which I prefer over the other 4 suggestions posted within the first hour.
... differences in immigration policy between the southern and the northern nations can also be explained by the principal differences in the political stances on immigration by the governments of the various subsets of countries, but the social, political, and economic circumstances also differ between them, as do the chances that potential immigrants will be able to overcome the barriers to legal entry into one country or another within the European continent... ...accelerated alignment of political strategy on immigration control among the various countries......
... differences in immigration policy between the southern and the northern nations can also be explained by the principal differences in the political stances on immigration by the governments of the various subsets of countries, but the social, political, and economic circumstances also differ between them, as do the chances that potential immigrants will be able to overcome the barriers to legal entry into one country or another within the European continent... ...accelerated alignment of political strategy on immigration control among the various countries......
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these and those (in this context)
my option
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