Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
mitgeschnitten
English translation:
recorded
Added to glossary by
Kim Metzger
Aug 27, 2009 01:12
14 yrs ago
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German term
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
mitgeschnitten
German to English
Art/Literary
Media / Multimedia
art exhibition
aus Fernsehen mitgeschnittenes Material
I'd appreciate help with this term because I really don't know what's going on. The artists involved in the exhibition are Cory Arcangel, Jessica Ciocci, Jacob Ciocci, Shana Moulton and Ryan Trecartin.
Überschuss und Zerfall als Gesamtkunstwerk
Die Ausstellung "Deterioration, they said" vereint im Zürcher Migros-Museum für Gegenwartskunst vom 29.8. bis 811.2009 vier Projekte von US-Künstlern. Obwohl Vertreter einer jüngeren Generation, erinnern ihre Video-Arbeiten an die Bildsprache der 1980er und 90er Jahre – exzessiv bunt und überbordend wie unsere Kultur des Überschusses. Abseits des "guten Geschmacks" wird hemmungslos gemischt: aus Fernsehen mitgeschnittenes Material mit selbst gezeichneten Comics, psychedelischen Sequenzen und Konsumsymbolen.
I'd appreciate help with this term because I really don't know what's going on. The artists involved in the exhibition are Cory Arcangel, Jessica Ciocci, Jacob Ciocci, Shana Moulton and Ryan Trecartin.
Überschuss und Zerfall als Gesamtkunstwerk
Die Ausstellung "Deterioration, they said" vereint im Zürcher Migros-Museum für Gegenwartskunst vom 29.8. bis 811.2009 vier Projekte von US-Künstlern. Obwohl Vertreter einer jüngeren Generation, erinnern ihre Video-Arbeiten an die Bildsprache der 1980er und 90er Jahre – exzessiv bunt und überbordend wie unsere Kultur des Überschusses. Abseits des "guten Geschmacks" wird hemmungslos gemischt: aus Fernsehen mitgeschnittenes Material mit selbst gezeichneten Comics, psychedelischen Sequenzen und Konsumsymbolen.
Proposed translations
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| 3 | recorded |
Alexander Weichelt
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| 3 | sampled |
mill2
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| 3 -2 | TV outtakes/edited out material from TV |
Anne Grimes
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| 3 -2 | interwoven |
Frank Pepp
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References
| looking back in time :-) |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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| recorded |
Annett Kottek (X)
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Proposed translations
1 day 19 hrs
Selected
recorded
Es geht doch schließlich nur darum, dass etwas aufgezeichnet wurde
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Alexander and everyone else. I failed to connect 'mitgeschnitten' with 'Mitschnitt', which is already in the glossary."
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Anne Grimes
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Canada
Handwriting specialist
Native in: English (Variants: US, Canadian)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, Latin to English, and 1 more.
TV outtakes/edited out material from TV
This is how I understand it. Material that's not used after the final editing.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Anne. Looks promising. |
Peer comment(s):
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Elsje Apostel
: I think it may be used material as well
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Annett Kottek (X)
: This refers to home-recorded material (with a video or DVD recorder) that was then edited by the artist, as a way of appropriating or referencing contemporary culture. It may or may not include outtakes.
5 hrs
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Lonnie Legg
: It refers to (artist-)recordings of aired material -- not outtakes. see Annett Kottek's reference.
6 hrs
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Erik Freitag
: Agree with Lonnie and Annett.
6 hrs
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Ulrike Kraemer
: with Lonnie and Annett
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interwoven
I have seen such work done in Germany. They might be referring to the current process and not the original editing. Mitgenschnitten means "with" "cut" as in in "inter-edited" better phrased "interwoven".
"Material from Television is -interwoven- with self-drawn comics, psychedelic sequences and symbols of consumption."
The opening sequence of Lola Rennt, and movies like Requiem for a Dream, Magnolia and Donnie Darko are more mainstream (less "beyond" good tastes) examples in this same vein of art.
In the case you address, I assume the television is borrowed directly and not recreated and parodied.
"Material from Television is -interwoven- with self-drawn comics, psychedelic sequences and symbols of consumption."
The opening sequence of Lola Rennt, and movies like Requiem for a Dream, Magnolia and Donnie Darko are more mainstream (less "beyond" good tastes) examples in this same vein of art.
In the case you address, I assume the television is borrowed directly and not recreated and parodied.
Peer comment(s):
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Lonnie Legg
: It refers to (artist-)recordings of aired material -- regardless of how it is subsequently handled by the artist. see Annett Kottek's reference.
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I'm in agreement with Annet Kottek's answer now as well. Thanks.
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Erik Freitag
: Agree w/ Lonnie.
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Thanks
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Ulrike Kraemer
: with Lonnie
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Thanks
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philgoddard
: I don't see what's wrong with this.
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Thanks. If language was more than use, we would be right. I think this term has been bastardized by the same people who think taking photos of hipster friends at a bar is art. I assume its genesis is a "high quality live cut"; akin to taking a good photo.
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sampled
Agree with the Annett's reference definition, another way to put it would be material sampled from TV
Reference comments
1 hr
Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Canada
Native in German
Canada
Friendly, fast & certified!
Native in: German (Variants: Platt / Nieder (Low German), Austrian, Germany, Swiss)
Works in: English to German, German to English, German
Related KudoZ points
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Reference:
looking back in time :-)
Note from asker:
| That WAS a while ago. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
ArnoTranslat (X)
: memories, memories...
46 mins
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| agree |
Helen Shiner
: either you or Annett should post this as an answer to get us out of this impasse!!
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Erik Freitag
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Reference:
recorded
mitschneiden (bes. Rundf., Ferns.): (eine Sendung o.Ä. zum Zwecke beliebiger Reproduzierbarkeit) aufzeichnen, auf Magnetband aufnehmen: eine Sendung, ein Konzert m.
© Duden - Deutsches Universalwörterbuch, 6. Aufl. Mannheim 2006 [CD-ROM].
Obwohl das Magnetband jetzt wohl überholt ist. Wenn ich das richtig verstehe, wurde bei der damaligen redaktionellen Nachbearbeitung das Band buchstäblich geschnitten (meine Quelle hier ist Bölls satirische Kurzgeschichte Dr. Murkes gesammeltes Schweigen.)
YouTube könnte man als die Hochburg der Mitschneider bezeichnen:
‘Ich hab viele LIeder über Youtube mitgeschnitten und convertiert.Erkennt Itunes die Lieder/Alben oder, was wichtiger ist, spielt der ipod die lieder überhaupt ab?’
http://wow.ingame.de/forum/showthread.php?s=2b50fe1fa3c6df06...
‘Notruf-Mitschnitt in YouTube: Verfahren gegen Polizisten eingestellt’
http://www.wdwip.tv/forum/showthread.php?t=5936
© Duden - Deutsches Universalwörterbuch, 6. Aufl. Mannheim 2006 [CD-ROM].
Obwohl das Magnetband jetzt wohl überholt ist. Wenn ich das richtig verstehe, wurde bei der damaligen redaktionellen Nachbearbeitung das Band buchstäblich geschnitten (meine Quelle hier ist Bölls satirische Kurzgeschichte Dr. Murkes gesammeltes Schweigen.)
YouTube könnte man als die Hochburg der Mitschneider bezeichnen:
‘Ich hab viele LIeder über Youtube mitgeschnitten und convertiert.Erkennt Itunes die Lieder/Alben oder, was wichtiger ist, spielt der ipod die lieder überhaupt ab?’
http://wow.ingame.de/forum/showthread.php?s=2b50fe1fa3c6df06...
‘Notruf-Mitschnitt in YouTube: Verfahren gegen Polizisten eingestellt’
http://www.wdwip.tv/forum/showthread.php?t=5936
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Lonnie Legg
: Yes!
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Thank you for your agree and discussion entry. Actually, Johanna had already answered the question with her link to a previous glossary entry; I just wanted to elaborate on it.
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Erik Freitag
: Certainly. You should post an answer, though.
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Thank you, efreitag.
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Kay Barbara
: with efreitag
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Thank you, Kay.
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Ulrike Kraemer
: mit Erik
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Thank you, LittleBalu.
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Deborah Shannon
: with all of the above. In the context of meetings, lectures, teleconferences also: Mitschnitt = audiovisual recording, Mitschrift = transcript
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Thank you, Deborah.
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Helen Shiner
: with you and Johanna's offering. Please one of you, post as an answer!
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Frank Pepp
: I agree this is the best translation.
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