Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

planetenlauf

English translation:

movement (or progression) of the planets

Added to glossary by Lingua.Franca
Sep 22, 2009 11:29
14 yrs ago
German term

planetenlauf

German to English Social Sciences History
As a heading in seventeenth century almanacs. The location of the planets is listed for each month. I just need to know what this word is in English. Thank you so much!
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Oct 6, 2009 20:56: Lingua.Franca Created KOG entry

Discussion

Susan Welsh Sep 22, 2009:
orbits? The reason I didn't choose this option, is that I think in the 17th century, almanac readers would want to know simply WHERE the planet is (mainly for astrological reasons, I suppose). The word "orbit" seems to me to take on a scientific flavoring which might be lacking in these works. Of course, the Copernican cosmology was by no means universally accepted, even by the late 17th century--much less the Keplerian. People who did not accept these did believe in orbits, of course--orbits around the Earth. (This matter of which term to use is just speculation on my part. It's a topic that fascinates me, and I guess I'm procrastinating about getting to work....)

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movement (or progression) of the planets

across the night sky.
Peer comment(s):

agree Helen Shiner : This seems the most likely of a bunch of reasonable answers
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agree Rebecca Garber : Progression for an historical text.
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agree franglish : With Rebecca, the more so in an astrological context
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agree Nicola Wood : also prefer progression
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course of the planets

nach "course of the sun" = Sonnenlauf
Example sentence:

With the requisite astronomical knowledge he could plot the course of the planets far in advance

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planetary orbit

... would be my approach.
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neutral Susan Welsh : see discussion
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Motion of the Planets

This makes the most sense to me, as an amateur historian of Renaissance astronomy. You could also say "location," which would mean the same thing in 17th-century terms, but "motion" is closer to "lauf."

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Actually, unless this is a translation of a rigorous treatment of the history of science, it doesn't matter which of these various options you choose, since very few almanacs exist from that period in English, and the point in any case would be to be clear to a modern reader. Whatever they called it in German, there would be no standard translation in English, I don't think. (Scientists wrote in Latin mostly anyhow.) If it's an academic treatment, however, you would want to get it just right, which would mean looking at some actual almanacs from 17th century England.
Peer comment(s):

agree Annett Kottek (X)
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Reference comments

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Reference:

From the Poor Richard Almanack 1733 & 1753

From the title page of Poor Richard Almanack, 1733
‘The Lunations, Eclipses, Judgment of the Weather, Spring Tides, ****Planets Motions**** & Mutual Aspects, Sun and Moon’s Rising and Setting, Length of Day, Time of High Water, Fairs, Courts, and observable Days’
http://public.gettysburg.edu/~tshannon/his341/pra1733cover.h...

From the title page of Poor Richard Almanack, 1753
‘The True ****Aspects of the Planets,**** the Rising and Setting of the Sun, And the Rising, Setting and Southing of the Moon”
http://public.gettysburg.edu/~tshannon/his341/pra1753cover.h...


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aspect n.
3) (position looking in a given direction) Lage, die; (front) Seite, die; have a southern aspect nach Süden liegen
Duden-Oxford - Großwörterbuch Englisch. 3. Aufl. Mannheim 2005 [CD-ROM].
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