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Nov 22, 2009 21:41
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Spanish term

por merced que se le otorgó

Spanish to English Art/Literary History
I'm completely lost with this sentence:

Y en otro ejemplo, en 1595 Gonzalo López Músico por merced que se le otorgó, de un sitio de estancia para ganado mayor funda la Hacienda de la Angostura, Zacatecas con un obraje, del cual habría de surgir la comunidad de Villa García, reconocida hasta hace algunos años por sus tejedores.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 thanks to having been granted
3 was granted by the Spanish Crown
2 was granted a favour
References
looks as if he was granted land

Discussion

Patricia Rosas (asker) Nov 22, 2009:
what a way to spend a Sunday afternoon!!!
Carol Gullidge Nov 22, 2009:
gosh so far I've found a couple of subordinate clauses, but as yet no main verb! Am I going blind? Good luck with this one !

Proposed translations

+2
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thanks to having been granted

Not a very good turn of phrase, but my take is: He was granted the 'estancia' and thanks to this started the 'hacienda' which included an 'obraje', from which Villa García was born

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-22 23:35:30 GMT)
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...and until just a few uears ago, Villa García was famous for its weavers?
Peer comment(s):
agree Carol Gullidge : or words to this effect!//yes, I always think that the final tweaking is up to the Asker. And as you say, Patricia is more than capable of that. What we provide is the basic ingredients... At least that's all I'm looking for when I post questions
3 mins
Thanks, Carol. The ones I chose are not too effective, but Patricia's good at fixing that!
agree Emma Ratcliffe
3 hrs
Thank you so much! Saludos
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Christine!"
10 mins

was granted a favour

Oxford : ortogar un merced : grant a favour
You might be able to turn the sentence around so it reads:

was granted a favour

due to a favour granted to him/bestowed on him
through a favour granted to him/bestowed on him

I ask myself if that "de" is "of" or dar/give ...
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17 hrs

was granted by the Spanish Crown

customary in colonial times.
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Reference comments

24 mins
Reference:

looks as if he was granted land

[PDF] ABRIL 2007 - [ Translate this page ]
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En 1595, Gonzalo López Músico, tras recibir una merced de tierras, fundó su hacienda de Agostadero, actual cabecera municipal de Villa García. ...
www.zacatecas.gob.mx/Agendacultural/Abril07.pdf
LVIII Legislatura - [ Translate this page ]
Efemérides:- En un día como hoy pero del año de 1595, Gonzalo López, músico, tras recibir una merced de tierras, funda su hacienda de agostadero, ...
www.congresozac.gob.mx/lviiilegislatura/.../P_radiofonicos1...
Note from asker:
Un abrazote, Carol!! Why didn't I think to search? Actually, the Hacienda is misnamed here, too. It's really Agostadero. I just posted in the other question my solution: he was granted a [royal] in the form of a large cattle ranch, on which he founded the Hacienda ...
ooops! I meant [royal] favor ...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Christine Walsh : This clinches the idea!
12 mins
thanks, yes, fairly conclusive!
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