Mar 26, 2011 21:22
13 yrs ago
Spanish term
Pueblos actuales
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Anthropology
"Aunque en algunos pueblos actuales como los Ba-Mbuti..."
Sociedades primitivas que viven en tiempos presentes
Sociedades primitivas que viven en tiempos presentes
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present-day indigenous peoples
present-day works better than current in this context. Basically all five previous answers have something to recommend. It's really down to your preference for phrasing and how the phrase fits in the context of your larger text.
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Comment: "This is the option that works better for me in this context. However most answers were equally good. Thanks everyone"
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some of today's peoples / races / societies
Current isn't going to work here. It sounds to transient and we hope that will not be the case.
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Yuk, I thought I'd caught the typo. TOO transient.
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Yuk, I thought I'd caught the typo. TOO transient.
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: Exactly that: "some of today's peoples". It's idiomatic and slots precisely into the context and register.
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Thank you very much.
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Richard Boulter
: I don't mind 'current' so much, but 'today's' is fine also. Especially important, here, is the openness of saying 'peoples' (plural), allowing these indigenous societies the separate status that the source recognizes with 'pueblos' even in our global view
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Thank you Richard, and yes, re pueblos.
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James A. Walsh
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Thanks James
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indigenous people who still form cohesive groups today
I would shy away from a literal translation of "pueblos actuales" and restructure the sentence, putting the "today" elsewhere in the sentence. (As you haven't provided I can't suggest an alternative sentence word for word.) Examples of "people" and "group":
"...reappraisal of Turnbull's work and Mbuti society and context, in order to expand our theoretical space to support people like the Mbuti in a way which ...
www.gla.ac.uk/media/media_106649_en.pdf; The Stanford team compared them with other extremely ancient groups like the Mbuti of Zaire and the Biaka pygmies of Central African Republic and found the ...
faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~jmatthew/articles/clicks.html - En caché -; 26 Oct 2009 ... Ota Benga was a member of the Mbuti pygmies who, like all indigenous people today are struggling to hold on to their ancient ways of life. ...
www.channel4.com/.../human-zoo - Reino Unido - En caché - Similares Similares
"...reappraisal of Turnbull's work and Mbuti society and context, in order to expand our theoretical space to support people like the Mbuti in a way which ...
www.gla.ac.uk/media/media_106649_en.pdf; The Stanford team compared them with other extremely ancient groups like the Mbuti of Zaire and the Biaka pygmies of Central African Republic and found the ...
faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~jmatthew/articles/clicks.html - En caché -; 26 Oct 2009 ... Ota Benga was a member of the Mbuti pygmies who, like all indigenous people today are struggling to hold on to their ancient ways of life. ...
www.channel4.com/.../human-zoo - Reino Unido - En caché - Similares Similares
Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
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Cheers and thanks, Jim. Have a good weekend.
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extant peoples/extant communities
in existence; still existing; not destroyed or lost: There are only three extant copies of the document.
Reference:
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current indigenous peoples
It is the expression most widely used in Anthropology, International Aid and Human development. You can find it as such in documents from the World Bank and Unesco, to Anthropology essays.
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Indigenous Peoples and the World Bank | Bank Information Center ...
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9 Jul 2007 ... In 1991 the WB adopted its current Indigenous Peoples Operational Directive OD 4.20. In addition to this safeguard policy, the World Bank ...
www.bicusa.org/en/Issue.24.aspx - En caché
Society
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... current indigenous peoples' health care crisis with appropriate emergency and long-term measures that include the participation of indigenous peoples. ...
www.npolar.no/ansipra/english/items/State_policy.html - En caché
1 Jan 2006 ... From the mysterious origins and fates of her earliest inhabitants; the current indigenous peoples; to the history and influence of ...
www.mexconnect.com/.../1920-the-peoples-of-mexico - En caché - Similares
News & Broadcast - Indigenous Peoples
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The current Indigenous Peoples policy (endorsed by the Bank's Board of Executive Directors in May 2005) recognizes that the distinct identities and cultures ...
web.worldbank.org › News › Issue Briefs - En caché
[PDF]
The Asian Development Bank's Indigenous Peoples' Policy and its ...
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Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
de RD Roy - Artículos relacionados
to the adoption of its current Indigenous Peoples policy, such consultations were regarded by indigenous peoples as inadequate.41 The process of reforming ...
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Jane Ash Poitras
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She moves us away from stereotypical abuse and poverty, enabling the viewer to change their perceptions of current Indigenous peoples. ...
www.uwo.ca/visarts/research/2009-10/bat_2010/aa.html - En caché
Article: The Wisdom of Indigenous Peoples
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19 Sep 2007 ... As part of that view many in the modern world have made it their mission to assist the world's current indigenous peoples in their fight to ...
www.wiserearth.org/.../563ef9ae2843b85a7a57ebb28d5f77a8 - En caché
________________________________________________________________________________
Indigenous Peoples and the World Bank | Bank Information Center ...
- [ Traducir esta página ]
9 Jul 2007 ... In 1991 the WB adopted its current Indigenous Peoples Operational Directive OD 4.20. In addition to this safeguard policy, the World Bank ...
www.bicusa.org/en/Issue.24.aspx - En caché
Society
- [ Traducir esta página ]
... current indigenous peoples' health care crisis with appropriate emergency and long-term measures that include the participation of indigenous peoples. ...
www.npolar.no/ansipra/english/items/State_policy.html - En caché
1 Jan 2006 ... From the mysterious origins and fates of her earliest inhabitants; the current indigenous peoples; to the history and influence of ...
www.mexconnect.com/.../1920-the-peoples-of-mexico - En caché - Similares
News & Broadcast - Indigenous Peoples
- [ Traducir esta página ]
The current Indigenous Peoples policy (endorsed by the Bank's Board of Executive Directors in May 2005) recognizes that the distinct identities and cultures ...
web.worldbank.org › News › Issue Briefs - En caché
[PDF]
The Asian Development Bank's Indigenous Peoples' Policy and its ...
- [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
de RD Roy - Artículos relacionados
to the adoption of its current Indigenous Peoples policy, such consultations were regarded by indigenous peoples as inadequate.41 The process of reforming ...
#
Jane Ash Poitras
- [ Traducir esta página ]
She moves us away from stereotypical abuse and poverty, enabling the viewer to change their perceptions of current Indigenous peoples. ...
www.uwo.ca/visarts/research/2009-10/bat_2010/aa.html - En caché
Article: The Wisdom of Indigenous Peoples
- [ Traducir esta página ]
19 Sep 2007 ... As part of that view many in the modern world have made it their mission to assist the world's current indigenous peoples in their fight to ...
www.wiserearth.org/.../563ef9ae2843b85a7a57ebb28d5f77a8 - En caché
Peer comment(s):
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trabulsi
: best of the suggestions and better than mine.
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Thanks, trabulsi! I appreciate your comment.
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[although some] groups today OR: [although some] remaining indigenous groups
The first option is based on the text provided. Your explanation suggests that more might need to be added, which corresponds to the second option. The need for the extra info depends on how much is understood from the rest of the context.
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I would take the passive out of the rest of the sentence and say:
Although some [remaining] groups today, such as the Ba-Mbuti, [continue to/still] fragmentan los huesos de elefante con el objetivo de obtener tuétano, ésta no es una práctica habitual
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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-03-27 00:36:44 GMT)
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I would take the passive out of the rest of the sentence and say:
Although some [remaining] groups today, such as the Ba-Mbuti, [continue to/still] fragmentan los huesos de elefante con el objetivo de obtener tuétano, ésta no es una práctica habitual
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surviving cultures
Or "surviving indigenous cultures" if you want to be absolutely clear.
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