Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Bard
English answer:
Bard College
Added to glossary by
Jenni Lukac (X)
Apr 10, 2012 13:49
12 yrs ago
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English term
Bard
English
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
“Harvard wake up yet?”
“Not yet.”
“They will. I know they will. And you should turn them down when they do. Who needs the Jivey Leagues? Fight the power, bruh. Stick it to the man. Go to Bard instead.”
“Wow. Yeah. That’d show them.”
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so the girl is jokingly telling her friend that he should turn down Harvard and go to Bard instead
I found a Bard college in New York (which is where the characters live), but what's so special about it, what's with the "fight the power, bruh"? I suppose Americans should know; I'm clueless over here.
help me understand this, please!
thanks
“Not yet.”
“They will. I know they will. And you should turn them down when they do. Who needs the Jivey Leagues? Fight the power, bruh. Stick it to the man. Go to Bard instead.”
“Wow. Yeah. That’d show them.”
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so the girl is jokingly telling her friend that he should turn down Harvard and go to Bard instead
I found a Bard college in New York (which is where the characters live), but what's so special about it, what's with the "fight the power, bruh"? I suppose Americans should know; I'm clueless over here.
help me understand this, please!
thanks
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| 4 +8 | Bard College |
Jenni Lukac (X)
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| 4 | contrast to Ivy League |
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Bard College
It's a very progressive, cutting-edge school.
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http://www.bard.edu/about/history/ If you look at this site, you'll see how exceptional it is.
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Ivy League colleges are pro-establishment and Bard is pretty anti-establishment. Bard is full of New York intellectuals and I imagine that it's pretty difficult to find a single person with right-wing sentiments there. If one wants to be on the fast track for placement in a top firm that pays a terrific salary, the Ivy League may be the best place to go. If one wants to be a free-thinker and and intellectual, Bard is the best place to go. This person's friend probably thinks that turning down the former for the latter is crazy.
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Bard is not a community college. From its website: The faculty-to-student ratio is 1:9 and courses are taught by full faculty members. Among the many distinguished faculty at Bard College are five MacArthur Fellows—poets John Ashbery and Ann Lauterbach, novelist and memoirist Norman Manea, painter and multimedia artist Judy Pfaff, and journalist Mark Danner. Other notable faculty members include soprano Dawn Upshaw, journalist Ian Buruma, theatrical director JoAnne Akalaitas, composers Joan Tower and George Tsontakis, poet Robert Kelly, and writers Luc Sante and Francine Prose. Over the years, four recipients of the Nobel Prize in Literature have taught at Bard—Saul Bellow, Isaac Bashevis Singer, José Saramago, and Orhan Pamuk. Click here to see a full list of Bard Faculty.
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Note added at 9 mins (2012-04-10 13:59:25 GMT)
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http://www.bard.edu/about/history/ If you look at this site, you'll see how exceptional it is.
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Note added at 49 mins (2012-04-10 14:38:45 GMT)
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Ivy League colleges are pro-establishment and Bard is pretty anti-establishment. Bard is full of New York intellectuals and I imagine that it's pretty difficult to find a single person with right-wing sentiments there. If one wants to be on the fast track for placement in a top firm that pays a terrific salary, the Ivy League may be the best place to go. If one wants to be a free-thinker and and intellectual, Bard is the best place to go. This person's friend probably thinks that turning down the former for the latter is crazy.
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Note added at 52 mins (2012-04-10 14:41:38 GMT)
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Bard is not a community college. From its website: The faculty-to-student ratio is 1:9 and courses are taught by full faculty members. Among the many distinguished faculty at Bard College are five MacArthur Fellows—poets John Ashbery and Ann Lauterbach, novelist and memoirist Norman Manea, painter and multimedia artist Judy Pfaff, and journalist Mark Danner. Other notable faculty members include soprano Dawn Upshaw, journalist Ian Buruma, theatrical director JoAnne Akalaitas, composers Joan Tower and George Tsontakis, poet Robert Kelly, and writers Luc Sante and Francine Prose. Over the years, four recipients of the Nobel Prize in Literature have taught at Bard—Saul Bellow, Isaac Bashevis Singer, José Saramago, and Orhan Pamuk. Click here to see a full list of Bard Faculty.
Note from asker:
| but then why is she mentioning it here? the ivy league colleges are cutting-edge, too, and the phrase sounds like she's saying "go to some shitty school instead" |
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jccantrell
: Ivy league schools are not exactly what I would call 'cutting edge.' More steeped in tradition. It is in contrast to this that Bard is mentioned.
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Thanks, JC.
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katsy
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Thanks very much, katsy.
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Veronika McLaren
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Cheers and thanks, Veronika.
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Yvonne Gallagher
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Cheers and thanks, gallagy.
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Charles Davis
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Thanks very much, Charles.
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Lydia De Jorge
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Cheers and thanks, Lydia.
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Jim Tucker (X)
: Outstanding school, just as good as the Ivy League, but not part of the Ivy League establishment (= "the Man").
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Thanks very much, Jim. I agree with you.
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Phong Le
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Thanks, Phong.
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Comment: "thank you! and thanks for your comments, everyone"
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contrast to Ivy League
Ivy League is perceived to be the upper echeleon of US education. Bard is probably a community college and not viewed as part of the academic elite.
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