Jan 14, 2013 17:10
11 yrs ago
Portuguese term
"pedra negra e esfuminho sobre papel"
Portuguese to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Portuguese from Portugal: "Desenho a pedra-negra e esfuminho sobre papel" in a description of a sketch/drawing by Charles-Nicolas Cochin, the Younger. I can't work out what this medium is - any help much appreciated!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | black chalk and sfumato |
Evans (X)
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| 4 +1 | black chalk with stumping on paper |
Lucy Phillips
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| 4 | scumbled black chalk |
Nick Taylor
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Proposed translations
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black chalk and sfumato
The technique of sfumato is given its Italian name in English. And pedra negra is what the French call "pierre noire" and we call "black chalk" in English.
Examples can be seen here:
http://sniteartmuseum.nd.edu/assets/68588/epic_and_intimate_...
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Note added at 16 mins (2013-01-14 17:27:06 GMT)
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The full answer of course is: "black chalk and sfumato on paper".
Examples can be seen here:
http://sniteartmuseum.nd.edu/assets/68588/epic_and_intimate_...
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Note added at 16 mins (2013-01-14 17:27:06 GMT)
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The full answer of course is: "black chalk and sfumato on paper".
Note from asker:
| Thank you so much, that's really helpful! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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5 hrs
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Elegant precision - published writer
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Portuguese to English
black chalk with stumping on paper
the stump is the tool used to smudge and blend - creating the sfumato that Gilla has described above. The use of the term 'with stumping' appears to be fairly commonly applied to chalk and graphite drawings. There's various examples here, though I can't find a 'black chalk with stumping' specifically for Cochin.
http://www.frick.org/sites/default/files/archivedsite/exhibi...
http://www.frick.org/sites/default/files/archivedsite/exhibi...
Note from asker:
| Thank you so much Lucy! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Evans (X)
: The text could indeed refer to the stump used to create sfumato.
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thanks Gilla
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Nick Taylor
Native in English
Specializes in field
Portuguese to English, English to Portug
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, English to Portuguese
Related KudoZ points
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91
scumbled black chalk
scumbled black chalk
Peer comment(s):
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Evans (X)
: Hi Nick, scumbling involves brushing a layer of opaque coour over a previous layer of another colour, and is not usually used in reference to black chalk
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Quite so but I va always used the term with my drawing students when they are developing thir sfumato technique - in chalk - or pencil-drawing, to rub lightly the blunt point of the chalk over the surface of, or to spread and soften the harder lines of w
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Discussion
In painting Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa is an oft-cited example of sfumato.
I wanted to post these in references but the option seems to have disappeared.