French term
établir
En raison de ce qui précède, les parties ont convenu d’établir la présente convention
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Henrietta King
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| 5 +4 | draft |
Julie Napier
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Nov 21, 2013 12:56: Rob Grayson changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
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Proposed translations
United Kingdom
Qualified legal translator
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English
to enter into
to enter into an agreement/a contract
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writeaway
: that would be conclure. it's dangerous in legal to translate what amounts to a personal interpretation of what one thinks is meant. Sticking to translating the actual words used in the source text is the safest way to go, imo
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philgoddard
: Nothing wrong with this.
1 hr
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Precisely the distinction I make above. "Etablir" in this instance cannot be expressing a decision to "draft" but to "draw up", to "enter into" etc as there is reference to "la présente convention", thus already in existence.
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AllegroTrans
: to enter into would be conclure or signer
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Ireland
FR & SP > ENG Translator
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
draft
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writeaway
: yes of course. this is basic, standard terminology and can be found in any Fr-En dictionary. I think drawn up is better in the context. The fact that lawyers drafted it isn't the important point.
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AllegroTrans
: draw up
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Mark Bossanyi
: ...with writeaway and AllegroTrans. Not much doubt there, I think.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: This is one stage too early in the process. The original describes "la présente convention", so the agreement already exists, in draft form at least. They can only therefore be agreeing to either draw up or to enter into the agreement.
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liz askew
: draw up
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