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Dec 16, 2013 10:51
10 yrs ago
French term

Référence vivante

Non-PRO French to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general) price list
Column heading in a price list.

other headings include: company code, customer code, article description, order unit, price etc.

All entries under Référence vivante are either yes or no
Proposed translations (English)
3 living reference/document
4 live reference
4 still recommended? or still relevant?

Discussion

Thomas Roberts (asker) Dec 16, 2013:
not sure I can do that I've had more than one objection in the past that my French questions are not pro questions, so I just class them all as non-pro to keep everyone happy...
writeaway Dec 16, 2013:
Can you change this question to pro? Even though the literal translation seems to work, it's not really one of those questions that anyone can rattle off without thinking or looking it up.
Thomas Roberts (asker) Dec 16, 2013:
Document originally in French As far as I know the document was not originally in any other language. All parties to the contracts to which it refers are French companies.
John Holland Dec 16, 2013:
"en vigueur"? Is it possible that this text was translated into French from another language? If so, "vivante" might be a mistranslation of "en vigueur."

http://www.wordreference.com/fren/en vigueur

I'm not sure how that would work with "reference," though...
Thomas Roberts (asker) Dec 16, 2013:
Not much else to share Other than the fact that the items sold are chemical products (e.g. acide nitrique, diluant, etc.). I only have to translate the table headings.
There is accompanying text of contracts, but these don't contain this term.
Sheila Wilson Dec 16, 2013:
Can you not share other info? Price list of what? We need to know that at the very least. Is the actual list of prices the only thing you are translating or is there some text about these objects?

Proposed translations

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living reference/document

A living reference/document is a document that is continually edited and updated.
In this case a price list.

I would imagine the yes/no would be an indication to whether or not the company updates its price lists regularly or not.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-12-16 13:48:32 GMT)
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http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/livin...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-12-16 13:49:29 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_document
Note from asker:
Many thanks, hadn't heard of this term before.
Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway : any actual refs to back this? /ok, makes sense I guess
52 mins
Please see above note.
neutral Daryo : doesn't really add up: the "référence vivante" (or not) is applied to each line in a price list, not to the whole document
3 hrs
?? presumably for each company this applies?? Ask the asker if you'd like more clarification.
disagree philgoddard : Référence means product.
1 day 6 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for the help. "
1 hr

live reference

i.e. still being used as opposed to "dead" no longer in use.
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : any refs to back this?
55 mins
just an educated guess, given the limited context; we have no idea what's the purpose of that list, but it could well include for some kind of comparison items no longer offered for sale and items still being sold...
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10 hrs

still recommended? or still relevant?

If the customer has earlier ticked this product and this is a second notification, then "still recommended" is what i'd suggest, else "still relevant" would apply to a broader case, especially when the product has a history with the past.
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