Aug 6, 2014 17:48
9 yrs ago
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Spanish term

ranchada carcelaria

Spanish to English Social Sciences Law (general) Prison life
Hello Everyone!
I was wondering if some one could help me with a translation for this term.
You can find it in use in page 264 of this book, point 4.3. I cannot copy and paste here, google doesn't allow that!
The text is about the repression in the times if the dictatorship in Argentina.
Thanks in advance for your help!


http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=JzLJTxJqLuAC&pg=PA264&lp...

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inmate gathering

I do not think such thing exists in English speaking countries, as their prison systems differ so much from ours, here in Argentina. Besides, there is an explanation of the term in the book...

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Note added at 46 minutos (2014-08-06 18:35:29 GMT)
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Habría que preguntarle a algún prozeano que haya estado preso en Estados Unidos o en Inglaterra... alguno debe haber... Pero no creo que algo como la ranchada exista en esos lugares.
Es más, aquí en la ciudad de Córdoba había o hay una estación de radio popular, con música muy popular y local, llamada La Ranchada. Y todos los ex-sopres la escuchaban a rajatabla.


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Of course, it wouldn't be wrong to leave it as it is, being such a culturally laden word....

Peer comment(s):

agree Juan Jacob : Supongo que viene de "rancho", la comida tanto de soldados como de prisioneros, ¿no? Al menos en México así se llama: "el rancho". (Nada que ver con "ranch", claro).
6 mins
Sí, supongo que sí. En las prisiones argentinas, que no tienen ni los regimenes de seguridad ni son privadas, los presos se juntan y comparten, y eso es la ranchada.
agree Chris Neill : prison recreation room, but no way captures the nuances of "ranchada"// I see
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No, no, no es lo mismo, porque no hay una habitación para la ranchada. Puede ser en la celda de alguno, como puede ser en el salón principal. (Sociolecto: ¿Qué andai haciendo en la ranchada del tero botón ese, ah?)
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ranchada/out-of-cell groups (or time)

bueno en la página 265 definen la ranchada como:
"el precario espacio reservado para los internos dentro del pabellón para comunicarse, comer y estar" (¿ves que era fácil transcribir?).
No creo que sea un espacio físico, sino de tiempo, una coyuntura que tienen los presos un rato al día.
En inglés está el término "out-of-cell time" para expresar eso mismo.
Ahora bien, más abajo la palabra toma otra connotación, porque ya comienzan a llamarle ranchada a los grupos en que salen los presos: ranchada de los pesados, ranchada de los ligeros, como que no todos se reúnen en el mismo lugar a la vez, sino que los agrupan por criterios para sacarlos de las celdas.
Creo que el hay un vacío cultural tan grande que no valdría la pena inventarse un nombre en inglés que se acerque pero que en realidad no lleguará a recoger lo que implica el término en español.
Mi idea sería dejarlo en español si fueras a traducir ese mismo texto como un todo, con la definición y el resto de las explicaciones. Si lo quieres aislar de contexto, te sugeriría ponerle "out-of-cell groups" para los grupos y "out-of-cell time" para el espacio en que los dejan salir.
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Reference comments

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common area

C-4 inmates are held in a Close Custody Unit, which is also separate from the general population. C-4 inmates may have a few more privileges than C-5 inmates, but they do not have the full number of privileges enjoyed by the general population. They may work, they are not shackled as they move outside their cells, they may eat in the dining hall with the general population, and they have cellmates. Also, the C-4 floor plan is similar to that for C-3 inmates: each cell opens into a common area where inmates may talk and play cards or other games. However, unlike C-3 inmates, C-4 inmates may not lock themselves in their cells for privacy, they may work for only a short period of time at a specific work site, and they generally have fewer privileges and are more strictly supervised than C-3 inmates.

C-3 inmates comprise the general population. They may move about the prison facility unencumbered by restraints. They work at various jobs, some building high-quality furniture. Inmates can earn from $1.50 to over $3.00 per day, depending on the job. Those who perform highly skilled work, such as carpentry, may earn $3.50 a day. Inmates do not receive cash for their work; their earnings are banked in an account. Using their account, they may buy articles from the canteen, such as personal hygiene products, soda, candy, chips, and cigarettes. Inmates may smoke cigarettes in the common area and in their cells. However, if his cellmate objects, an inmate may not smoke in his cell.

An inmate may receive money from persons outside the prison, but he may not receive packages of personal items. He may not spend more than $200 per month, no matter how much money he has. He may buy items such as magazines, books, radios, and televisions, but only through the manufacturer.

Inmates on C-3 status enjoy the full range of educational and work opportunities available in the prison, and their days are often consumed by these activities. They may also use the law library for a certain amount of time each day.

An inmate's day begins at approximately 7:00 A.M. Those inmates scheduled to begin work before 7:00 A.M. are awakened earlier. The lights are dimmed around 10:00 P.M. and sometimes 11:00 P.M. on weekend nights. Except for C-5 inmates, restless inmates may leave their cells during the night to sit in the common area.
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