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Feb 17, 2015 12:52
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German term

ausländische Studierende - Bildungsausländer

German to English Other Education / Pedagogy
This is a heading in a table of statistiks. No further context. I've come up with an explanation but no "short and snappy" term. Any ideas?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Foreign students with Abitur equivalent OR foreign certificate of matriculation
4 (those ) studying abroad- foreign students
3 +1 international students - foreign-educated
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Change log

Feb 17, 2015 13:08: Steffen Walter changed "Field (write-in)" from "Bildungsausländer" to "(none)"

Discussion

Yorkshireman Feb 19, 2015:
Re: Canada Not quite so simple as suggested by "foreign education"

Minimum Admission Requirements

For most countries, we consider the same academic preparation as is required for university entrance in that country: successful graduation from an academic secondary school program or equivalent.

Source: http://futurestudents.yorku.ca/requirements/intl
Yorkshireman Feb 19, 2015:
Answerer The reference posted by Lancashireman states quite clearly that

1 Definition
Bildungsausländer sind ausländische Studierende, die eine Hochschulzugangsberechtigung erworben haben.
Source: Statistisches Bundesamt

This is not foreign-educated.

Although anyone who went to school in another country than Germany may well be foreign-educated, this does not necessarily mean that they have gained a qualification for university entrance equivalent to the German Abitur (e.g. UK A-levels).
Sanni Kruger (X) (asker) Feb 19, 2015:
UK English
Lancashireman Feb 18, 2015:
Sanni (UK) Is British or American English required?
Sanni Kruger (X) (asker) Feb 17, 2015:
I'm clear that they talk about international/foreign students and I'm also clear about the definiton of "Bildungsausländer". I just wonder if there is a single term in English that would be suitable as a heading.
heidi (X) Feb 17, 2015:
@ Lancashireman Lemme throw in 2 more to complete the mix and match:
inländische Studierende - Bildungsinländer
inländische Studierende - Bildungssausländer
Lancashireman Feb 17, 2015:
Is there a column elsewhere in your text with the heading: ausländische Studierende - Bildungsinländer?
If so, the answers to both could be:
1) Foreign students with German Abitur
2) Foreign students with Abitur equivalent

Proposed translations

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Foreign students with Abitur equivalent OR foreign certificate of matriculation

Matriculation is the formal process of entering a university, or of becoming eligible to enter by fulfilling certain academic requirements such as a matriculation examination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriculation

Many foreign matriculation examinations are recognised in Germany. In this case you can be admitted directly to a course of studies - provided that you have sufficient knowledge of German.
http://www.internationale-studierende.de/en/prepare_your_stu...

1 Definition
Bildungsausländer sind ausländische Studierende, die eine Hochschulzugangsberechtigung erworben haben.

1.1 ausländische Bildungsausländer
ausländische Bildungsausländer sind Studierende ausländischer Nationalität, die ihre Hochschulzugangsberechtigung im Ausland erworben haben.

1.2 ausländische Bildungsinländer
ausländische Bildungsinländer sind Studierende ausländischer Nationalität, die ihre Hochschulzugangsberechtigung im Gegensatz zu den Bildungsausländern im deutschen Bildungssystem erworben haben.
http://glossar.hs-augsburg.de/Bildungsausländer

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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-02-17 14:59:10 GMT)
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In order to be admitted to the Bachelor’s degree programme in Electrical Engineering and Information Technology (B.Sc. etit) you must have passed either Abitur, or Fachabitur, or hold an equivalent school leaving certificate issued abroad. If you are an international applicant you will also require a DSH-2 language certificate.
http://www.etit.tu-darmstadt.de/studieren/studiengaenge/elek...
Peer comment(s):
agree Yorkshireman : For instance A-levels from the UK, or anything approved for university entrance qualification by a matriculation board or similar
1 day 17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks you for all your help. In the end we opted for "non-German Abitur equivalent". It's slightly ambiguous but does not exclude German-Swiss or Austrian students, in the same way as "foreign" would."
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(those ) studying abroad- foreign students

Thart proportion of a country or institution's students who are studyting broad at any given time, and the percentage of students FROM abroad who are studing in a given institution or country.
Peer comment(s):
neutral British Diana : Your explanation gives two opposing definitions, they can't both fir the context
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international students - foreign-educated

Peer comment(s):
neutral Lancashireman : Suggests a very narrow view of 'education' with a premature cut-off point. // For an exclusively American readership, perhaps.
48 mins
seems to work for the asker's purposes, though.// Don't think so. It's also very common in Canada, for instance.
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : It's enough, really, the context does not call for anthing further. Be well, Johanna
22 hrs
thanks, Ramey!
agree Elani Koogle
1 day 6 hrs
Thanks! Glad to meet a fellow Pacific Northwesterner here :-)
disagree Yorkshireman : Although anyone who went to school in another country than Germany may well be foreign-educated, this does not necessarily mean that they have gained a qualification for university entrance equivalent to the German Abitur (e.g. sufficient UK A-levels).
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Reference comments

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Reference:

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Bildungsausländer sind ausländische Studierende, die eine Hochschulzugangsberechtigung erworben haben.

ausländische Bildungsausländer sind Studierende ausländischer Nationalität, die ihre Hochschulzugangsberechtigung im Ausland erworben haben

http://glossar.hs-augsburg.de/Bildungsausländer


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Note added at 23 mins (2015-02-17 13:16:00 GMT)
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Als Schwierigkeiten nennen ausländische Studierende, wie auch in den vorherigen Erhebungen, die Wohnungssuche, gefolgt von mangelndem Kontakt zu deutschen Studierenden, Orientierung im Studiensystem und Finanzierung des Studiums.
http://www.bmbf.de/press/3563.php
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agree writeaway
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