Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Zeitrichtwert
English translation:
stipulated contact time
Added to glossary by
Monika C
Mar 4, 2015 10:36
9 yrs ago
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German term
Zeitrichtwert
German to English
Other
Education / Pedagogy
Certificates/reports
Die Gesamtnote des Unterrichtsfaches Fachtheorie ergibt sich aus den Einzelnoten der Lerngebiete unter Berücksichtigung der Zeitrichtwerte.
This is on a graduation certificate from a vocational school, written as a note at the bottom.
Would 'training time guidelines' be acceptable here?
So: 'The final grade of the subject Vocational theory is computed from the individual grades of the learning areas, taking the training time guidelines into account'.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions & explanations!
This is on a graduation certificate from a vocational school, written as a note at the bottom.
Would 'training time guidelines' be acceptable here?
So: 'The final grade of the subject Vocational theory is computed from the individual grades of the learning areas, taking the training time guidelines into account'.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions & explanations!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +4 | minimum attendance requirements |
Lancashireman
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| 3 +1 | recommended instructional time |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Proposed translations
+4
35 mins
Lancashireman
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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370
Selected
minimum attendance requirements
I suppose you have found this definition:
"Zeitrichtwerte geben an, wie viel Unterrichts-/Unterweisungsstunden zum Erreichen der Ausbildungsziele einschließlich der Leistungsfeststellung vorgesehen sind."
http://aevo.de/wiki/zeitrichtwerte/
Some relevant references here:
https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Aub2VMu2AYfn7AbbzoBw&...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-03-04 23:46:42 GMT)
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For the reasons stated in my comment on Dr Timm’s proposal, I do not consider either ‘recommended’ (which makes the course/qualification sound like a consumer good) or ‘instructional time’ (non-native use of this adjective) to be appropriate. If Dr Timm’s line of argument is to be accepted, then a more authentic way of phrasing this would be stipulated contact time
Examples:
“The SIA defines stipulated contact timeas time in the presence of a tutor or trainer or during an assessment.
http://www.nocn.org.uk/assets/0001/2208/QS_-_L2_Award_in_CCT...
The stipulated contact time must occur over a minimum of three days.
http://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/BTEC-Speci...
“Absences which have not been compensated for by attendance at a parallel group are a matter for the discretion of the course teacher, but under no circumstances may the students be accepted for examination, or may credit be granted for any contact-taught course where absence exceeds 20% of the total stipulated contact time.
http://www.oulu.fi/englishphilology/node/12383
"Zeitrichtwerte geben an, wie viel Unterrichts-/Unterweisungsstunden zum Erreichen der Ausbildungsziele einschließlich der Leistungsfeststellung vorgesehen sind."
http://aevo.de/wiki/zeitrichtwerte/
Some relevant references here:
https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Aub2VMu2AYfn7AbbzoBw&...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-03-04 23:46:42 GMT)
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For the reasons stated in my comment on Dr Timm’s proposal, I do not consider either ‘recommended’ (which makes the course/qualification sound like a consumer good) or ‘instructional time’ (non-native use of this adjective) to be appropriate. If Dr Timm’s line of argument is to be accepted, then a more authentic way of phrasing this would be stipulated contact time
Examples:
“The SIA defines stipulated contact timeas time in the presence of a tutor or trainer or during an assessment.
http://www.nocn.org.uk/assets/0001/2208/QS_-_L2_Award_in_CCT...
The stipulated contact time must occur over a minimum of three days.
http://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/BTEC-Speci...
“Absences which have not been compensated for by attendance at a parallel group are a matter for the discretion of the course teacher, but under no circumstances may the students be accepted for examination, or may credit be granted for any contact-taught course where absence exceeds 20% of the total stipulated contact time.
http://www.oulu.fi/englishphilology/node/12383
Note from asker:
| Hi Lancashireman, 'stipulated contact time' sounds perfect in this context, thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Donald Jacobson
4 hrs
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| agree |
philgoddard
4 hrs
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| agree |
gangels (X)
8 hrs
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| neutral |
heidi (X)
: Sorry, but I don't see how "Unterrichts-/Unterweisungsstunden zum Erreichen der Ausbildungsziele einschließlich der Leistungsfeststellung" translates as "minimum attendance requirements".// http://goo.gl/Z8gI9E
8 hrs
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Asker has requested (authentic) English. Perhaps you prefer 'instructional minutes'? // Thanks for the Google skim. It's English, Heidi, but not as we know it. http://goo.gl/7Xuin4
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| agree |
Yorkshireman
: The source says it all. wie viel = minimum / Stunden=attendance / vorgesehen sind = required
10 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again for the adjusted term!"
+1
8 hrs
Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Canada
Native in German
Specializes in field
Canada
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Native in: German (Variants: Germany, Swiss, Platt / Nieder (Low German), Austrian) 
Works in: English to German, German to English, German
Related KudoZ points
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258
recommended instructional time
"Richtwerte" sind die für das betreffende Lerngebiet empfohlene Zahl von Unterrichtsstunden, die für die Vermittlung der Lerninhalte zur Verfügung stehen; daher ist ein zeitlicher Richtwert/Zeitrichtwert= recommended (instructional) time, as set out in the framework curriculum
Unter "Berücksichtigung der Zeitrichtwerte" versteht man die Gewichtung der Note basierend auf Lernfeld/Unterrichtszeit.
cp.
„In den Zeugnissen findet sich im oberen Teil eine Note für „Fachtheorie“, die den Durchschnittswert der Lernfelder des vergangenen Ausbildungsjahres wiederspiegelt. Dieser Wert wird aufgrund der unterschiedlichen Zeitrichtwerte, die der Rahmenlehrplan für die Lernfelder vorgesehen hat, durch Gewichtung ermittelt. Im ersten Zeugnis liegt das Gewicht der Note aus Lernfeld 1 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 80 Stunden natürlich höher als bei der Note aus Lernfeld 2 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 40 Stunden.“
http://www.bib-info.de/fileadmin/media/Dokumente/Landesgrupp...
Die Zeitrichtwerte sowie die Hinweise zum Unterricht und zur Methodik stellen Empfehlungen dar und sind als
Anregungen für die Lehrkräfte zu verstehen.
http://www.nibis.de/nli1/bbs/archiv/rahmenrichtlinien/sozial...
Zeitrichtwerte sind zeitliche Empfehlungen, zumeist in Stunden eingeteilt, die nach Lernfeldern angegeben werden.
http://www.arbeitsagentur.de/web/content/DE/Unternehmen/Ausb...
cp:
“recommended instructional minutes”
http://pubs.cde.ca.gov/tcsii/ch3/rdmdrqirdinstmin.aspx
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Note added at 12 hrs (2015-03-04 22:45:39 GMT)
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To clarify: the German source sentence does NOT say:
The computation of the overall grade is based on the student’s performance in individual learning areas, taking into consideration how many (of a required number of) instruction hours a student has completed or attended.
Rather, it says:
The overall grade is computed using the student’s grades in individual learning areas that are weighted using the recommended instructional times (as per curriculum framework).
In other words, it is not about the student’s fulfillment of certain “attendance requirements”, but about the approach used to compute the student’s grade, an approach that takes the instructional times into account that are recommended for the different learning areas.
To illustrate: if a student achieves the grade “good”/ in a learning area where the recommended instructional time is 50 hours, this will definitely be “more worth” than if he/she achieved the same grade in a learning area with a recommended instructional time of only 20 hours.
As my reference says: „Im ersten Zeugnis liegt das Gewicht der Note aus Lernfeld 1 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 80 Stunden natürlich höher als bei der Note aus Lernfeld 2 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 40 Stunden.“
Unter "Berücksichtigung der Zeitrichtwerte" versteht man die Gewichtung der Note basierend auf Lernfeld/Unterrichtszeit.
cp.
„In den Zeugnissen findet sich im oberen Teil eine Note für „Fachtheorie“, die den Durchschnittswert der Lernfelder des vergangenen Ausbildungsjahres wiederspiegelt. Dieser Wert wird aufgrund der unterschiedlichen Zeitrichtwerte, die der Rahmenlehrplan für die Lernfelder vorgesehen hat, durch Gewichtung ermittelt. Im ersten Zeugnis liegt das Gewicht der Note aus Lernfeld 1 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 80 Stunden natürlich höher als bei der Note aus Lernfeld 2 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 40 Stunden.“
http://www.bib-info.de/fileadmin/media/Dokumente/Landesgrupp...
Die Zeitrichtwerte sowie die Hinweise zum Unterricht und zur Methodik stellen Empfehlungen dar und sind als
Anregungen für die Lehrkräfte zu verstehen.
http://www.nibis.de/nli1/bbs/archiv/rahmenrichtlinien/sozial...
Zeitrichtwerte sind zeitliche Empfehlungen, zumeist in Stunden eingeteilt, die nach Lernfeldern angegeben werden.
http://www.arbeitsagentur.de/web/content/DE/Unternehmen/Ausb...
cp:
“recommended instructional minutes”
http://pubs.cde.ca.gov/tcsii/ch3/rdmdrqirdinstmin.aspx
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Note added at 12 hrs (2015-03-04 22:45:39 GMT)
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To clarify: the German source sentence does NOT say:
The computation of the overall grade is based on the student’s performance in individual learning areas, taking into consideration how many (of a required number of) instruction hours a student has completed or attended.
Rather, it says:
The overall grade is computed using the student’s grades in individual learning areas that are weighted using the recommended instructional times (as per curriculum framework).
In other words, it is not about the student’s fulfillment of certain “attendance requirements”, but about the approach used to compute the student’s grade, an approach that takes the instructional times into account that are recommended for the different learning areas.
To illustrate: if a student achieves the grade “good”/ in a learning area where the recommended instructional time is 50 hours, this will definitely be “more worth” than if he/she achieved the same grade in a learning area with a recommended instructional time of only 20 hours.
As my reference says: „Im ersten Zeugnis liegt das Gewicht der Note aus Lernfeld 1 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 80 Stunden natürlich höher als bei der Note aus Lernfeld 2 mit einem Zeitrichtwert von 40 Stunden.“
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Dr. Timm, your explanations were very useful and have helped me understand the meaning of the phrase. I do quite like the term 'stipulated contact time' as newly suggested by Lancashireman based on your explanations, as I feel it conveys the fact that there is a certain number of hours required for the course, not just recommended. Thanks again for your suggestions! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
heidi (X)
48 mins
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Thanks, Heidi.
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: 1) ‘Recommended’ makes this course/qualification sound like a consumer good. Universities don’t ‘recommend’, they ‘stipulate’. 2) Time cannot be instructional, only experience (or lecturers) can.
3 hrs
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I hope that my added info has made the meaning of the sentence clearer - it is more complex than it looks.
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Discussion
This is for an Australian audience, thanks!