Glossary entry

Hungarian term or phrase:

bírósági végzés

English translation:

court order

Added to glossary by Ildiko Santana
Aug 13, 2015 14:33
8 yrs ago
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Hungarian term

végzés

Hungarian to English Other Law (general) Criminal Law
bírósági végzésről van szó (a bíróság meghozta a végzést)

Angol angol jogban szeretnem a leggyakrabban hasznalatos kifejezest erre.

Melyik a preferaltabb: decision, judgement , ruling

Tennetek e kulonbseget a hasznalatban ha keruleti bírósagi, v törvényszék/másodfoku bíróság hozza a végzést

Koszonom.
Proposed translations (English)
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4 +1 judgment
5 Order
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Aug 22, 2015 16:53: Ildiko Santana Created KOG entry

Discussion

phebyk Aug 14, 2015:
Court Order
evzso (asker) Aug 14, 2015:
Koszonom a valaszokat. A kontextus: elozetes fogvatartas meghosszabitasarol szolo vegzesek, (elsofokon, keruleti birosagnal -magyar helyszin) valamint masodfokon szuletett vegzesek a fellebbezesre. Mindezt angol angolra forditva. A Skociaban pl a judgment a hasznalatos legalabb is egy barrister akit megkerdeztem ezt mondta, bar megjegyezte , h elegge szinonimak. De kivancsi voltam, h mit mondanak proz szakkollegak. Persze utana olvastam a neten, pl. az order- re azt irja, h eleg korlatozott a hasznalati kor. Pl. amikor a birosag elrendeli az ules berekeszteset, stb. hasonlo technikai rendelkezesek. ...

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order

(bírósági) végzés : (court) order
ítélet : judgement

Sentencing in England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_in_England_and_Wale...

Public law cases are brought by local authorities or an authorised person (currently only the NSPCC) and include matters such as:

care orders, which give parental responsibility for the child concerned to the local authority applying for the order
supervision orders, which place the child under the supervision of their local authority
emergency protection orders, which are used to ensure the immediate safety of a child by taking them to a place of safety, or by preventing their removal from a place of safety
You and the Judiciary - Going to Court
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/you-and-the-judiciary/going-to-...

IATE kereső:
http://iate.europa.eu/SearchByQuery.do

Jogi angol szótár - végzés : order
http://www.jogiangolfordito.hu/en/jogi-szotar.html

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Note added at 1 hr (2015-08-13 15:50:11 GMT)
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A kérdésben az áll, hogy "Angol angol jogban" - felteszem, hogy ez az Angliában preferált nyelvezetet jelöli. :) Én ugyan már 16 éve az USA-ban dolgozom, de azért megkockáztattam a fenti javaslatot a mellékelt hivatkozások alapján (is). Nálunk valóban "decree" áll pl. a családjogi végzéseken, de az amerikai angol.

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2015-08-14 15:38:19 GMT)
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A fenti kiegészítés alapján (is) az ORDERt javaslom. Két további referencia:

Custody time limits
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/custody_time_limits/

My rights during the investigation of a crime and before the case goes to court

This factsheet and its sub-factsheets explain the procedure used during criminal investigations and what happens after the investigation and before the criminal trial takes place.
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_rights_of_defendants_in_...

Jó példák:

Court of Appeal's Order, accommodation order, if the Court of Appeal makes an order, order for a re-trial, ....

Custody Time Limits
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The purpose of setting Custody Time Limits (CTL) for the preliminary stages of a case is to progress the case expeditiously and avoid an accused person remaining in custody for an excessive period (see Core Quality Standard 5.26, below).
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Retrials Ordered by the Court of Appeal

Where a case is committed, transferred or sent to the Crown Court under section 51 and 51A Crime and Disorder Act 1998 and a conviction is quashed by the Court of Appeal with an order for a re-trial under sections 7 and 8 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1968, the custody time limit for a person ordered to be detained in custody will continue to be 112 days (in all cases, whether previously committed, transferred or sent) from the date of preferment of the indictment for the re-trial: Regulations 5(2)(b) and 5(3)(b) of the CTL Regulations.

The draft indictment must be served on the Crown Court within 28 days of the order (rule 14(1)(c) of the Criminal Procedure Rules) and the defendant must be arraigned within two months of the order at a PCMH or leave from the Court of Appeal will be required. This will not be allowed unless the Court is satisfied that the prosecution has acted with due expedition since the order under section 7 and that there is good and sufficient cause; (Archbold 7-112 and 113).
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Retrials Ordered by the Court of Trial

If a Crown Court trial is aborted, for example because the jury cannot reach a verdict or because the jury is discharged following some procedural irregularity and the defendant is remanded in custody, the CTL which has stopped DOES NOT RESTART. CTL will not apply to the period between that trial and the start of a retrial (R v Crown Court at Leeds, ex parte Whitehead TLR 5 July 1999). Similarly, no CTL runs where a defendant is later allowed to vacate a guilty plea and a trial is ordered or a committal hearing is aborted and has to restart R v Governor of Winson Green Prison, ex parte Trotter [1992] 94 Cr. App. R. 29 below.

It should be noted, however, that in these cases Auld LJ said that the trial judge should be vigilant to protect the interests of an accused in custody by taking steps to fix a speedy retrial or, if there were difficulties with that, by considering the grant of bail or even staying the prosecution as an abuse of process.

Retrials Ordered by the Court of Appeal following an order quashing a conviction

If the Court of Appeal makes an order quashing a conviction for a qualifying offence under Part VI of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 following new and compelling evidence and order a retrial following the application by a prosecutor, the trial will take place on a fresh indictment preferred by the direction of the Court of Appeal. The procedure to be followed will be that the new indictment must be served on the court within 28 days of the Court of Appeal's order (see the Criminal Procedure Rules, rule 14) and the defendant arraigned at a PCMH to be for safety's sake well within the 2 months from the Court of Appeal's order. A new 112 day CTL will start from the date of service of that indictment on the court. Any time in custody served by the defendant following an arrest under section 89 CJA 2003 and before the service of the indictment on the court does not appear to trigger a new CTL under section 22 POA 1985 though the court will be bound to take that time into consideration when sentencing the offender. The case should of course at all times be handled with due diligence and expedition as though there was a CTL effective at the time.

Young Offenders

Section 22(11) of the Act lays down that CTL apply not only to young offenders remanded in custody but also to those remanded to local authority accommodation under section 23 Children and Young Persons Act 1969.

Where a secure accommodation order is made, the time limit runs from the date when the order was made, not from when the young person is actually placed in the accommodation; (Archbold 1-268). ....
Peer comment(s):

agree Tamas Elek : Igen, a decree csak házasságfelbontás esetén használatos brit angol jogban is. A legtöbb esetben a végzésre valóban az order a megfelelő.
2 hrs
Köszönöm szépen, Tamás!
agree Zsofia Koszegi-Nagy
2 days 7 hrs
Köszönöm, Zsófi!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Köszönöm. Némely esetben nehéz különbséget tenni az order/judgement/decision végzés/ítélet/határozat és azok helyi használata között egy megadott szövegkörnyezetben."
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30 mins

judgment

Viszonylag sok formája létezik, függően attól, hogy milyen jellegű a végzés.

A leglátalánosabb szerintem a judgment (nem judgement):

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/about-the-judiciary/the-justice...

Peer comment(s):

agree Iosif JUHASZ
5 mins
disagree Peter Simon : Ld a reference-t. Ildikónak igaza is volt akkor.
21 mins
neutral Tamas Elek : Bizonyos esetekben jó lehet, de általában az order a jó.
3 hrs
agree hollowman2 : A "judgment" (is) alkalmazott megoldás.
12 hrs
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8 days

Order

Order a legmegfelelőbb válasz. Sokat tolmácsolám, és hallom is ebben a formában.
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Reference comments

52 mins
Reference:

Már volt!

Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Tamas Elek : Angol jogban a decree csak házasságfelbontás esetén használatos. A referenciában ennek megfelelően valóban igaza volt Ildikónak, de itt már nem egyértelmű, sőt valószínűbb, hogy nem jó.
3 hrs
"Itt" semmilyen kontextust nem kaptunk. Számos más eset is van, amikor még ezek sem használatosak, hanem valami más.
disagree hollowman2 : A megadott referencia itt nem jó.
12 hrs
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