Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

intervenidos

English translation:

resulting from (the artist\'s) intervention / artist-intervened

Added to glossary by Mónica Algazi
Apr 4, 2016 18:57
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Spanish term

intervenidos

Spanish to English Art/Literary Journalism Article about an artist
Context:
Entre 1980 y 1990, [artist's name] produce imágenes mitopoiéticas que parecen provenir de un tiempo remoto, de un tiempo mnésico que las borronea parcialmente, las desdibuja, tal como aparecen en los fotograbados * intervenidos * o en las Memocopias tratadas con aerógrafo.

TIA!

Discussion

Mónica Algazi (asker) Apr 6, 2016:
Just a comment To be honest, I wish I could have split the points, or rather give four points to each of you, Charles and Marcelo. In fact, I used 'manipulated' and 'artist-intervened' in different parts of the text as both are absolutely appropriate.
Marcelo González Apr 5, 2016:
Though an explanation could be helpful, it's not as if evidence did not exist suggesting the appropriacy of literal options (véase p.ej., 'Fotograbados e intervención'); indeed, in this context of (art) intervention----which appears to be broad in both languages----evidence would also suggest that 'manipulation' might be an appropriate rendering for 'manipulación.' In fact, it could get rather messy if certain literal renderings were not used in this context (see e.g., 'language origin transparency' in "Metaphor and Agency" [2014]), as the likelihood of multiple versions of quotations circulating simultaneously would almost certainly increase. In this context, a literal approach is probably the safest. Cheers from the Mariana islands :-)
Charles Davis Apr 5, 2016:
Just for the record And NOT any kind of comment on the choice!

Airbrushing, blurring, erasing and retouching are all examples of image manipulation. They are often done by computer nowadays, but they can still be done by hand, as I imagine is probably the case here. And "intervención" could refer to something done to the image either before or after printing.
Intervention certainly is an art term, but it means interaction with a previous artwork or with a space or situation; it's a term primarily belonging to conceptual art. It can mean this in Spanish too, but it has a wider range of uses in Spanish, including the one in this text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_intervention
Mónica Algazi (asker) Apr 5, 2016:
I understand your point, Carol Since I have not been able to find any examples of this Uruguayan artist's "Memocopias" on line, I guess I will choose the translation that most resembles the original in Spanish. A huge thanks to all of you.
Carol Gullidge Apr 5, 2016:
fotograbados intervenidos I'm assuming that the words "borronea" and "desdibuja" are crucial to the interpretation here of "fotograbados intervenidos". After an initial read, I'm not sure if Charles' interesting link explains this or not!
I get the impression from the context provided here that this question might be less about generally retouching, manipulating or modifying and more specifically about some sort of blurring or erasing technique such as airbrushing.
But perhaps one of the above terms does indeed cover the effect?? However, I'd need to see this explained before venturing to post a wholehearted Agree with any of the suggestions so far.

Either way, this seems to me to be highly technical - requiring also knowledge of the "Memocopias tratadas con aerógrafo", with which this term is being compared.
Helena Chavarria Apr 4, 2016:
Just guessing Touched up or modified?

A photoengraver may need to be able to use hand tools to touch up or modify the engraved image as a final.

Proposed translations

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resulting from (the artist's) intervention / (artist-)intervened

The author may have used 'intervenidos' in the context of (the artist's) 'intervention'---a term also used in the field of Translation Studies (see e.g., Munday's "Translation as Intervention").

Google 'art intervention' and you'll see lots of references.

Y en este contexto de fotograbados, también se habla mucho de la 'intervención digital' (tal como se ve en la página web a continuación).

Fotograbado e intervención digital
http://www.arteenchile.cl/archives/fotograbado-e-intervencio...

...and in English with regard to 'intervened' photographs (as seen in the search below)

https://www.google.com/search?q='intervened photos'&oq='inte...

Espero le sirva, Mónica, y saludos :-)

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manipulated

"Intervenido" is potentially quite a broad term, I think, and could cover a range of ways in which an artist alters modifies or works on a photoprint or photoengraving (or photogravure, whichever term you prefer). I think "manipulated" covers the same ground.

"Manipulated photogravure"
Richard Benson, Museum of Modern Art, The Printed Picture, p. 232.

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Sorry, forgot the reference:
https://books.google.es/books?id=DH9_dGFbekQC&pg=PA232#v=one...
Note from asker:
Thank you, Charles!
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard
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Thanks, Phil
agree Robert Forstag
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Thanks, Robert
agree Marcelo González : To the extent that the source text's 'intervenido' was intended as a reference to 'intervention' in photo art, "manipulated' may work, but options that include 'intervention' or 'intervened' (or even 'intervenient') may be even better. Cheers :-)
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Thanks, Marcelo :)
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modified

It's another possible translation for "intervenidos"; I would say the only difference with "manipulados" is that it has a more general meaning.
Note from asker:
Muchas gracias, Ana.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Marcelo González : Though something along these lines may be an option, 'intervenido' may have been chosen purposefully, perhaps as a nod to (the artist's) 'intervention' in the context of photo art, thus suggesting a more literal rendering may be preferible (see my notes).
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retouched

The usual generic term for any kind of modification to a photograph, either while making a print from the negative (effects like vignetting, often done by the photographer using his hands to selectively block light between the enlarger and the paper) or affecting the print (eg: hand colourising a B/W photo print), has always been "retouch". The equivalent in modern-day digital picture-making (I hesitate to call it 'photography') is "photoshopping'.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Robin!
Peer comment(s):

agree Muriel Vasconcellos : I think this is the best answer.
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neutral Marcelo González : Though this may indeed be an option, the author may have used 'intervenido' purposefully, within the context of (the artist's) 'intervention', suggesting a more literal rendering may be the way to go (see my notes).
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worked on

A general term, there are many things artist could have done to the original
Note from asker:
Thanks, Pat!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Marcelo González : True, 'many things', though 'intervenido' may have been chosen purposefully, as a nod or reference to the artist's 'intervention', thus suggesting a 'general term' may not be advisable in this context (please see my notes and suggestions). Cheers!
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Definition of 'photogravure'

Photogravure is an intaglio printmaking or photo-mechanical process whereby a copper plate is coated with a light-sensitive gelatin tissue which had been exposed to a film positive, and then etched, resulting in a high quality intaglio print that can reproduce the detail and continuous tones of a photograph.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Muriel!
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Marcelo González : Useful indeed. And here's a link on fotograbados (e intervención digital): http://www.arteenchile.cl/archives/fotograbado-e-intervencio...
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