Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
ocurrencias
English translation:
flashes of wit, creative flashes of imagination, pure whimsy
Added to glossary by
Mónica Algazi
Apr 5, 2016 22:05
8 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Uruguay
ATA-certified English-Spanish translator
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American) 
Works in: English to Spanish
ocurrencias
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Journalism
Article about an artist
Context:
El punctum
La obra instalacionista que [artist's name] desarrolla desde la década de los años noventa parece domesticar, convertir en algo familiar y conformista el legado perturbador del surrealismo, al eliminar de él todo resabio metafísico y operar con realidades contingentes, especialmente con el poder seductor del humor recatado, de la pura * ocurrencia *, sin caer por eso en lo banal.
La irrupción de la * ocurrencia * implica un trabajo intelectual previo destinado a descubrir el punto en que se quiebra la lógica de lo real, punto que el artista pone luego en evidencia.
Había pensado en algo así como "out-of-the-blue ideas", pero la última oración me complica... : /
TIA!
El punctum
La obra instalacionista que [artist's name] desarrolla desde la década de los años noventa parece domesticar, convertir en algo familiar y conformista el legado perturbador del surrealismo, al eliminar de él todo resabio metafísico y operar con realidades contingentes, especialmente con el poder seductor del humor recatado, de la pura * ocurrencia *, sin caer por eso en lo banal.
La irrupción de la * ocurrencia * implica un trabajo intelectual previo destinado a descubrir el punto en que se quiebra la lógica de lo real, punto que el artista pone luego en evidencia.
Había pensado en algo así como "out-of-the-blue ideas", pero la última oración me complica... : /
TIA!
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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wit
My first line of thought here was a flash of inspiration, but reading the context several times I find myself drawn towards wit, though I admit that at first it seems a rather free interpretation of "ocurrencia". And yet verbal "ocurrencias" are really witticisms. I think the phrase "sin caer por eso en lo banal" is a clue that "ocurrencia" refers to something that could in certainly circumstances lapse into banality, something apparently more clever than profound. "Pura" may carry the implication of "mere". Wit is something clever and inventive, and certainly something arising from an intellectual process. It can be humorous, and I think that follows on well from "el poder seductor del humor recatado", but in its classical sense it doesn't have to be. Wit means mental sharpness, inventiveness, intelligence, and implies an element of inspiration, something clever or insightful that occurs to you. But I think it's more this, an inspired comment on reality, than a sudden idea for how to do something.
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It goes well with "El punctum" too.
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It goes well with "El punctum" too.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Charles! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all of you! Where's the option 'Assign the points to more than one colleague'? : ("
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26 mins
Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
I read the Alethiometer
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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68
Spanish term (edited):
ocurrencia
brainwave
I would not use it in plural but it could fit the context.
"Britain's most enterprising mother: Sarah was bankrupt, divorced and on benefits when she had a brainwave. Now the Mail's Mumpreneur of the Year..."
http://goo.gl/48xGRi
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It does make sense that you have a sudden "inspiration" due to having pondered over something.
"Britain's most enterprising mother: Sarah was bankrupt, divorced and on benefits when she had a brainwave. Now the Mail's Mumpreneur of the Year..."
http://goo.gl/48xGRi
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It does make sense that you have a sudden "inspiration" due to having pondered over something.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Cecilia! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: I prefer "sudden inspiration". http://www.wordreference.com/definicion/ocurrencia
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Thanks Phil! Yes, that was my first idea. I should have included it as an option.
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11 hrs
quirks / quirkiness
Quirks are idiosyncrasies and the term can be applied in many fields.
quirk1.
a peculiar aspect of a person's character or behaviour.
"they accepted her attitude as one of her little quirks"
synonyms: idiosyncrasy, peculiarity, oddity, eccentricity, foible, whim, whimsy, notion, conceit, vagary, caprice, fancy, kink, crotchet, mannerism, habit, characteristic, trait, feature, obsession, fad;
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"Unless, that is, the work was conventional or the artist's quirks were described as inauthentic..."·
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/07/what-is-...
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"We may have a sense of the personality behind the work, the artist's quirks and blemishes..."
quirk1.
a peculiar aspect of a person's character or behaviour.
"they accepted her attitude as one of her little quirks"
synonyms: idiosyncrasy, peculiarity, oddity, eccentricity, foible, whim, whimsy, notion, conceit, vagary, caprice, fancy, kink, crotchet, mannerism, habit, characteristic, trait, feature, obsession, fad;
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"Unless, that is, the work was conventional or the artist's quirks were described as inauthentic..."·
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Note added at 11 hrs (2016-04-06 09:58:47 GMT)
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/07/what-is-...
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"We may have a sense of the personality behind the work, the artist's quirks and blemishes..."
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Neil! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carol Gullidge
: based mainly on "se quiebra la lógica de lo real" together with the fact that ocurrencia can mean an amusing idea. Other possibilities might be whackiness or idiosyncrasies// :))
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Yay! An agree. Now am a happy bunny :)
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(purely) whimsical
whimsical
playfully quaint or fanciful, especially in an appealing and amusing way.
"a whimsical sense of humour"
synonyms: fanciful, playful, mischievous, waggish, quaint, fantastic, unusual, curious, droll;
www.docsity.com › ... › Questions English Grammar
(1)The idea communicated may even be purely whimsical, in which case the artist might start out with symbols developed from a bird's tracks or a child's toy.
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De nada, Mónica. Se usa bastante en arte:
Favorite Whimsical Artists
www.whimsicalartists.com/
Favorite Whimsical Artists, including Tim Nyberg, Scott Plaster, Juli Cady Ryan, and Lucian Stewart. NC Whimsical artist Scott Plaster's line of Whimsical Animals ...
Whimsical Art for Sale - Fine Art America
fineartamerica.com/art/whimsical
Choose your favorite whimsical canvas prints, framed prints, greeting cards, throw pillows, duvet covers, t-shirts, and more from millions of available designs.
playfully quaint or fanciful, especially in an appealing and amusing way.
"a whimsical sense of humour"
synonyms: fanciful, playful, mischievous, waggish, quaint, fantastic, unusual, curious, droll;
www.docsity.com › ... › Questions English Grammar
(1)The idea communicated may even be purely whimsical, in which case the artist might start out with symbols developed from a bird's tracks or a child's toy.
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De nada, Mónica. Se usa bastante en arte:
Favorite Whimsical Artists
www.whimsicalartists.com/
Favorite Whimsical Artists, including Tim Nyberg, Scott Plaster, Juli Cady Ryan, and Lucian Stewart. NC Whimsical artist Scott Plaster's line of Whimsical Animals ...
Whimsical Art for Sale - Fine Art America
fineartamerica.com/art/whimsical
Choose your favorite whimsical canvas prints, framed prints, greeting cards, throw pillows, duvet covers, t-shirts, and more from millions of available designs.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Pat! |
2 hrs
Marcelo González
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
PhD in Translation Studies
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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16
(individual) creative flashes of imagination
...with the seductive power of understated humor, the pure/unadulterated product of *individual creative flashes of imagination*
*See Dagut's work on translating metaphors (qtd in 'Metaphor and Agency" [2014]).
I'm not so sure though about the last sentence.
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O perhaps something like...
**creative flashes of intelligence-laden humor**
Dagut on metaphors in work cited above---a PhD thesis inTranslation Studies at (world-ranked) Monash University:
In two widely-cited articles, Dagut describes metaphor as being “by definition ‘original’” and “at the frontier of linguistic change” (1976: 22-23); “an individual creative flash of imagination fusing disparate categories of experience in a powerfully meaningful semantic anomaly” that “presents a particularly searching test of the translator’s ability” (1987: 77). In this vein, Hanne states: “Translating metaphor is one of the most fascinating challenges for translators of journalistic and literary texts, since it requires us to draw on a great range of our imaginative, cultural and linguistic resources” (208) (also see, inter alia, Dobrzyńska; Pisarsca; Schäffner 2004a; Q. Al-Zoubi et al; Prandi; Schäffner and Shuttleworth).
Espero que le sirva, Mónica, y saludos desde las islas Marianas :-)
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Excuse me: in my previous note, I should have said:
"What follows is an excerpt from the discussion of Dagut's work in 'Metaphor and Agency' (cited above):"
En ese fragmento, también incluí unas palabras (casi igual de citables) de Hanne (para leer más de esta tesis, vea el enlace en mi perfil).
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●part of the 'first' sentence●
Source text
...con el poder seductor del humor recatado, de la pura ocurrencia, sin...
...with the seductive power of understated humor, the (unadulterated) product of creative flashes of imagination, without...
●the last sentence●
Source text
La irrupción de la ocurrencia implica un trabajo intelectual previo destinado a descubrir el punto en que se quiebra la lógica de lo real, punto que el artista pone luego en evidencia
Target text
The emergence of a creative flash of (imaginative) humor implies eruditious forethought with the intention of identifying the point on which the logic of non-contingent reality breaks down, the point that the artist subsequently depicts.
lógica de lo real >>> logic of non-contingent reality
If this appears to fit within the context of the article, it may be an option. Without seeing more of the source text, it's difficult to say with any degree of certainty.
*See Dagut's work on translating metaphors (qtd in 'Metaphor and Agency" [2014]).
I'm not so sure though about the last sentence.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2016-04-06 01:17:53 GMT)
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O perhaps something like...
**creative flashes of intelligence-laden humor**
Dagut on metaphors in work cited above---a PhD thesis inTranslation Studies at (world-ranked) Monash University:
In two widely-cited articles, Dagut describes metaphor as being “by definition ‘original’” and “at the frontier of linguistic change” (1976: 22-23); “an individual creative flash of imagination fusing disparate categories of experience in a powerfully meaningful semantic anomaly” that “presents a particularly searching test of the translator’s ability” (1987: 77). In this vein, Hanne states: “Translating metaphor is one of the most fascinating challenges for translators of journalistic and literary texts, since it requires us to draw on a great range of our imaginative, cultural and linguistic resources” (208) (also see, inter alia, Dobrzyńska; Pisarsca; Schäffner 2004a; Q. Al-Zoubi et al; Prandi; Schäffner and Shuttleworth).
Espero que le sirva, Mónica, y saludos desde las islas Marianas :-)
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Excuse me: in my previous note, I should have said:
"What follows is an excerpt from the discussion of Dagut's work in 'Metaphor and Agency' (cited above):"
En ese fragmento, también incluí unas palabras (casi igual de citables) de Hanne (para leer más de esta tesis, vea el enlace en mi perfil).
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Note added at 15 hrs (2016-04-06 13:54:12 GMT)
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●part of the 'first' sentence●
Source text
...con el poder seductor del humor recatado, de la pura ocurrencia, sin...
...with the seductive power of understated humor, the (unadulterated) product of creative flashes of imagination, without...
●the last sentence●
Source text
La irrupción de la ocurrencia implica un trabajo intelectual previo destinado a descubrir el punto en que se quiebra la lógica de lo real, punto que el artista pone luego en evidencia
Target text
The emergence of a creative flash of (imaginative) humor implies eruditious forethought with the intention of identifying the point on which the logic of non-contingent reality breaks down, the point that the artist subsequently depicts.
lógica de lo real >>> logic of non-contingent reality
If this appears to fit within the context of the article, it may be an option. Without seeing more of the source text, it's difficult to say with any degree of certainty.
Note from asker:
| Muchas gracias, Marcelo. Sumamente útiles las referencias. |
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12 hrs
shear imagination
madcap comedy/ improvisation
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Note added at 1 día12 horas (2016-04-07 10:55:15 GMT)
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@monica:Sorry for typo.
pura ocurrencia - SHEER IMAGINATION
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Note added at 1 día12 horas (2016-04-07 10:55:15 GMT)
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@monica:Sorry for typo.
pura ocurrencia - SHEER IMAGINATION
Note from asker:
| You meant 'sheer imagination', right? Sounds good! Thank you, Jude! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Graham Allen-Rawlings
: shear?? really? .. you need to check that in your dictionary.
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Sheer wickedness! That's what I'll call your disagree.Cheers!!
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