Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

suivant déclaration conjointe

English translation:

following the joint declaration (on surname) of both parents

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French term

suivant déclaration conjointe

French to English Other Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs birth certificate
Le huit août deux mil neuf à dix heures deux minutes est née, du sexe féminin, XXXX, suivant déclaration conjointe du (date), de (les parents)..............

Dresse (date) sur la declaration du pere....

If registered on declaration of father then what does "suivant déclaration conjointe du" mean here?
Change log

Feb 12, 2017 16:48: pooja_chic Created KOG entry

Feb 12, 2017 16:48: pooja_chic changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1063948">pooja_chic's</a> old entry - "suivant déclaration conjointe"" to ""following the joint declaration of both parents on surname""

Discussion

pooja_chic (asker) Feb 12, 2017:
Thank you all.
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
Child is bearing father's surname and as per law 1st January 2005... The Act provided that a child who was born after 1 January 2005 or was younger than 13 years of age at 1 September 2003 (i.e., was born after 1 September 1990) would assume his/her father’s surname, unless both of the child’s parents agreed and specified their intent to transmit to the child either parent’s family name or a hyphenated combination name (the transmission of hyphenated family names to subsequent generations was, however, prohibited).
https://opcedaw.wordpress.com/category/subject-matter/marria...

Now how should I put it so it looks fine..
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
http://etat-civil.legibase.fr/actualites/forum-des-lecteurs/...
Il est exercé sous la forme d’un imprimé de déclaration conjointe remise à l’officier de l’état civil le jour de la déclaration de naissance. La déclaration manuscrite est recevable si toutes les indications légales s’y trouvent. Il est intégré dans l’acte à la suite du nom sous la forme « suivant déclaration conjointe du
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
Very near to what is said here
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déclaration_de_naissance
L'acte de naissance énoncera le jour, l'heure et le lieu de la naissance, le [Sexe en droit français|sexe]] de l'enfant, les prénoms qui lui seront donnés, le nom de famille, suivi le cas échéant de la mention de la déclaration conjointe de ses parents quant au choix effectué,
Josephine Cassar Feb 11, 2017:
How can the date of the marriage certificate be AFTER the birth of mentioned child but married BEFORE the birth of the 3 children? This is the first child and there are 3 children in all, yes?
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
They married in county hall in 1997, one child born in 2000, other 2002 and now 2009. and copie livret famille mentions date delivree as date 1997.
Josephine Cassar Feb 11, 2017:
If they got married after this child's birth, then the procedure would be like this for this child's registration only, no?
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
Yes each child bears surname of father, only in the birth certificate of girl, the above declaration is mentioned.
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
Yes a marriage certificate too is provided. Its issuance date is after the birth of aforementioned child but married in town council before the birth of three children.
Josephine Cassar Feb 11, 2017:
@ asker Just guessing- Do you know if the parents were married?- as procedure would be different and the father would then have to sign alone. See: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F887
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
What is confusing here is
"Le huit août deux mil neuf à dix heures deux minutes est née, du sexe féminin, XXXX, suivant déclaration conjointe du (date), de (les parents).......
Dressé sur la déclaration du pere
Two times declaration, once by both parents and other only by father?
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Feb 11, 2017:
Sorry, I misread the original slightly in my first post.
"Le huit août deux mil neuf à dix heures deux minutes est née, du sexe féminin, XXXX, suivant déclaration conjointe du (date), de (les parents)..."
means that the child XXX was born on (date) to the parents (names of mother andf father).

As for the main question, "déclaration conjointe" it no doubt meansd that father is making the statement on behalf of both the mother and himself.
pooja_chic (asker) Feb 11, 2017:
There are 2 more children. Their birth certificate simply mentions. (name of child) and this one mentions name + surname and suivant déclaration conjointe du (date).
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Feb 11, 2017:
Meaning The answer is actually in the text of what you have posted. It states, "suivant déclaration conjointe du xx/xx/xxxx de père et mère..."
In France, you have just a couple of days to declare a birth. Here, the registration is made by the father in the name of both parents.

Proposed translations

7 mins

joint statement of or joint declaration made on (date)

can also be sometimes " agreed statement of "
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15 hrs

according to the joint declaration

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I suppose you can only translate what is there. It suppose it means that the father is signing in the name of both parents.
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : yup, literal translation. the problem escapes me
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agree Manoj Chauhan
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