Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

cas dégradé

English translation:

worst case scenario

Added to glossary by nessieB
Feb 23, 2017 12:02
7 yrs ago
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French term

cas dégradé

French to English Bus/Financial Finance (general) Business plan analysis
A business plan is drawn up based on various *cas* (cases or scenarios), as in *business case* no doubt: cas management (management case/scenario), cas bancaire (bank case/scenario) and *cas dégradé*, meaning the less optimistic scenario. I'm looking for the term usually used in English and have been combing through Google for half an hour without coming up with any generally-used term. Any help much appreciated. Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 worst case scenario
4 +2 downgraded case

Discussion

Rob Grayson Feb 24, 2017:
@ Daryo First, even if the source text is about valuing a business (not 'valuating', BTW), business case analysis is a common part of such a process.

Second, who said anything about "worst case" being automatically right? I certainly didn't. I just said that, in my opinion, it's the best fit. You don't have to agree, but at least don't misrepresent me.
Daryo Feb 24, 2017:
just a small detail your ST seems about valuating a business, not quite the same as making a "business plan".

BTW predicting "the worst-case scenario" ain't rocket science - company goes belly-up, simples ... somehow, I wouldn't think that's what they had in mind ...

Just because a term is quite used and seems to vaguely fit the ST doesn't make it automatically right.
Rob Grayson Feb 23, 2017:
Since the "cas dégradé" appears to be the worst scenario listed, "worst case scenario" is still the best option IMO.
nessieB (asker) Feb 23, 2017:
You're right Phil, particularly as the business plan is included in a company valuation report. Here's the sentence:
La fourchette de valorisation de XX ressort entre 1 500 XX et 2 200 XX hors upside et entre 1 900 XX et 2 500 XX avec upsides. Elle a été établie sur la base du *cas* central du Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) sur les 2 scénarios de BP (cas « Management » et *cas « dégradé »* Thanks in advance for any ideas you may have.
philgoddard Feb 23, 2017:
Asker I'm not convinced that it necessarily means worst-case, though I'm open to persuasion. Could we have the sentence(s) in which it appears?

Proposed translations

+4
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worst case scenario

In my experience, business cases most often include a baseline scenario, a best case scenario and a worst case scenario.
Note from asker:
Thanks Rob, I used your solution in my translation, with a hyphen (worst-case), as suggested by Phil
Peer comment(s):

agree Chakib Roula
2 mins
agree AllegroTrans
31 mins
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
1 hr
agree writeaway
1 hr
agree Guillaume Brownlie Pacteau
2 hrs
neutral philgoddard : Are we sure about this? Why not "le pire scénario"? But if it does mean worst-case, it should have a hyphen to show which words belong together.
2 hrs
Whether or not hyphenate is a matter of personal preference and any applicable style rules. (Absent the latter, there is little consensus on this.) // I'm pretty sure, and IMO the hyphen is not necessary… YMMV :)
disagree Adam Warren : dégradé doesn't necessarily imply the worst case. It can be "en fonctionnement dégradé", a degraded mode of operation
4 days
Yes, it can, but in the context, 'worst case scenario' is by far the most likely (and, IMHO, best) candidate.
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+2
6 hrs

downgraded case

I think that if they'd meant "worst case", they'd have used "pire". It may well be the worst case in practice, but I would reproduce what the French says rather than making assumptions.
Peer comment(s):

agree nweatherdon : I agree. There is nothing to indicate "worst"
11 hrs
neutral Rob Grayson : In my pre-translation life, I worked with business cases for years, and never once did I come across a "downgraded case".
14 hrs
agree Yolanda Broad
5 days
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