Mar 20, 2017 18:25
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French term

petit calisse de malade mental

French to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature Québécois \"sacres\" (swear words) in a play
This is a line in a play that I am helping to translate. "Calisse" is a québécois swear word and is often translated (as are most québécois "sacres") as the F word, despite actually being a religious term (chalice).

I am just not sure how to word this in the translation - translating theater is new to me, and I am sort of experiencing a crash renewal course in Québécois. I would appreciate if anyone could help with this.

Context:

la mère – Voulez-vous arrêter ça ! Ma tête va exploser !
Joe, sortant les toasts du four. – Je fais ce que je peux, m’man !
Samuel – J’aime pas ça quand tu me traites de menteur.
la mère – Comment ça le grille-pain marche pus ?
Joe – T’es un menteur !
Samuel – Quoi ?
la mère – Mon beau grille-pain.
La mère bouche ses oreilles. Joe fait du vent avec une serviette sous le détecteur de fumée.
Joe – Y a rien qui change gros gay. Tu restes un menteur !
Samuel – Fuck you…
Joe – Un criss de menteur !
***Samuel – … petit calisse de malade mental.***
Joe – Quoi ?
***Samuel – Petit calisse de malade mental.***
Joe – T’as un problème, Sam ?
Samuel – Oui, c’est toi mon problème.

Discussion

Roberta Beyer (asker) Mar 20, 2017:
@phil I don't think he is actually mentally ill, but I do think it's an ableist insult, something like what you have said. My brain is just fried from trying to find creative ways to translate pretty much the only four curse words in the entire Québecois dialect (osti, tabarnak, criss, caliss) without them just all being "fucking"
philgoddard Mar 20, 2017:
So is Joe mentally ill, and Sam is using it as an insult? If so, there are loads of ways you could translate it. "Fucking loony", something like that.

Proposed translations

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little fucking spastic

Sorry - both very offensive terms - but depending on how much the brotherly love shown here escalates, I think it would be within the register to use this phrase, and it retains the offensive "ableist" reference. It is UK English usage tho - very offensive in UK, less so in US I gather.
"fucking retard" might be more portable between US and UK.
Peer comment(s):

agree Yolanda Broad
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you're the fucking asshole who's out of touch with reality

To reflect the "menteur" (out of touch with reality) and even the "illness" aspect of it, even though neither one of them might not be ill in that way, as such.
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damn little moron

malade mental is often use In alternance with moron in Quebecois which comes form English, so the equivalency is easy here. for calisse there is no official nomenclature but damn works.

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in "Top of the Heap" crime novel by Erle Stanley Gardner, 1952
Example sentence:

you damn little Moron

https://books.google.ca/books?id=mjc4CgAAQBAJ&pg=PT90&lpg=PT90&dq=damn+little+moron&source=bl&ots=SY5oIdskC4&sig=2vhcGiUqDKzXhnCOTft2FhKO7h0&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivhozf4uXSAhUW52MKHW_0BVYQ6AEIQDAF#v=onepage&q=damn%20little%20moron&f=false

Peer comment(s):

neutral B D Finch : "Damn" is either/both too dated or too upper-class. Suggest: "bloody" or "bleeding".
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Damn you, stupid jerk

I certainly would not use the F word in a family exchange. And when Sam says F y in French, it should be translated by something less agressive as saying it in English in a French environment id not as offensive as it would be in an English one.
Example sentence:

You really are a jerk sometimes.

Peer comment(s):

agree Jennifer White : Yes, agree with your comment here.
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4 hrs

(stupid) little fuckwit

I think that might be used between siblings and is a similar register.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1446773345
Benjamin Harris
“Are you as deaf as you're stupid, you little fuckwit. Get off your ass, ... He turned to see the horrible visage of his brother, grinning with manic glee.

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