Apr 9, 2017 12:58
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English term
Serbia
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Works in: English to Serbian, Serbian to English
the man looking over his shoulder
English to Serbian
Social Sciences
History
korporacija ili koncerni zauzimaju mesto malih individualnih preduzeća
Nevertheless, it is clear that the transformation of the structure of large enterprises, from shop-floor to office and accountancy, made substantial progress between 1880 i 1914. The 'visible hand' of modern corporate organization and management now replaced the 'invisible hand' of Adam Smith's anonymous market. The executives engineers and accountants therefore began to take over from owner-managers. The 'corporation' or 'Konzern' replaced the individual. The typical businessman, at least in big business, was now much more likely to be not a member of the founder's family but a salaried executive, and the man looking over his shoulders was more likely to be a banker or shareholder than a managing capitalist.
Proposed translations
(Serbian)
| 3 | pomno pratiti |
Petar Zivanic
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| 5 +2 | онај који га надзире |
Daryo
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| 4 -1 | човек који се у страху стално осврће иза себе |
Dušan Stoičević
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| 4 -1 | Који је непрекидно на опрезу |
Slobodan Kozarčić
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Proposed translations
6 hrs
Petar Zivanic
Serbia
Serbia
Native in Serbian
Serbia
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Native in: Serbian
Works in: English to Serbian, English to Serbo-Croat, Serbian to English
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pomno pratiti
Iako su kolege navele primarno i svakako tačno značenje ovog idioma, meni se čini da je pravi smisao ovde „rukovoditi čime; nadzirati, nadgledati, pomno pratiti“ - dakle, da tipični privrednik više nije član osnivačke porodice, već direktor koji dobija platu za svoj posao, a osoba koja je njegov rukovodilac više nije kapitalista, već bankar ili akcionar... Google pokazuje da ovo drugo, nešto doslovnije značenje (viriti preko ramena) postoji u kolokvijalnom govoru, iako ga rečnici slabo beleže.
A ako ipak odaberete značenje koje su kolege predložile, mislim da je bolje rešenje „osoba koja preuzima rizik“.
A ako ipak odaberete značenje koje su kolege predložile, mislim da je bolje rešenje „osoba koja preuzima rizik“.
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Comment: "da, mislim da je ovo pravo značenje u ovom kontekstu"
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9 mins
човек који се у страху стално осврће иза себе
to look over one's shoulder: to worry or think about the possibility that something bad might happen, that someone will try to cause harm, etc. (Merriam-Webster Dictionary).
Превод који сам навео могао би бити само један од предлога.
Превод који сам навео могао би бити само један од предлога.
-1
31 mins
Slobodan Kozarčić
Serbia
Serbia
Native in Serbian
Serbia
900 films/500 medical rep/two books/tech
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, Bosnian
Works in: English to Serbian, English to Bosnian, Serbian to English, and 4 more.
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Који је непрекидно на опрезу
Сматрам да не треба буквално преводити ову фразу.
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: would be perfect for the most usual meaning of "the man looking over his shoulder", but not here!
5 hrs
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Значи, прво си се сложио, па сада пљујеш? Срећа па ме боли уво за мишљење неког мрачњака с интернета.
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5 hrs
English term (edited):
the man looking over his [=someone else's] shoulder
онај који га надзире
дословце: онај који вири иза његових рамена / виси му над главом / који стоји иза њега т.ј. надзире га
[The typical businessman, at least in big business, was now much more likely to be not a member of the founder's family but a salaried executive, ] **** and the man looking over his [the salaried executive's NOT his own!!!] shoulders was more likely to be a banker or shareholder *** [than a managing capitalist.]
... и вероватније је га [га => плаћеног менаџера] надзире банкар или деоничар (сувласник фирме?), ...
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Note added at 6 hrs (2017-04-09 19:15:58 GMT)
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... и вероватније је да га [га => плаћеног менаџера] надзире банкар или деоничар (сувласник фирме?), ...
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Note added at 5 days (2017-04-15 08:16:42 GMT)
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"the man looking over his shoulder"
has more than one meaning:
the man looking over his (OWN) shoulder = checking what's behind him, afraid of the danger that might be coming from the back
the man looking over his (when the "he" is SOMEONE ELSE) shoulder: standing behind someone and watching, controlling, checking etc. what someone else is doing
[The typical businessman, at least in big business, was now much more likely to be not a member of the founder's family but a salaried executive, ] **** and the man looking over his [the salaried executive's NOT his own!!!] shoulders was more likely to be a banker or shareholder *** [than a managing capitalist.]
... и вероватније је га [га => плаћеног менаџера] надзире банкар или деоничар (сувласник фирме?), ...
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Note added at 6 hrs (2017-04-09 19:15:58 GMT)
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... и вероватније је да га [га => плаћеног менаџера] надзире банкар или деоничар (сувласник фирме?), ...
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Note added at 5 days (2017-04-15 08:16:42 GMT)
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"the man looking over his shoulder"
has more than one meaning:
the man looking over his (OWN) shoulder = checking what's behind him, afraid of the danger that might be coming from the back
the man looking over his (when the "he" is SOMEONE ELSE) shoulder: standing behind someone and watching, controlling, checking etc. what someone else is doing
Note from asker:
| Iako sam se odlučila za predlog Petra Živanića, Vaše razjašnjenje je vrlo korisno. Hvala! |
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