Oct 11, 2018 02:04
5 yrs ago
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English term
Tenancy Letter
English to French
Bus/Financial
Law: Contract(s)
Tenancy agreement
Lettre de location ? Cette traduction est trop littérale à mon goût. Avez-vous d'autres suggestions ?
Un peu de contexte :
This Tenancy Letter sets out the principal terms of your Tenancy.
The Tenancy is subject to the attached Tenancy Terms and Conditions and Chapter Members’ Code at Schedule 1.
You should read its terms before agreeing to the Tenancy Agreement.
By accepting the Tenancy Letter you will be confirming that you agree to the terms set out in this Tenancy Letter, the Chapter Members’ Code and the Tenancy Terms and Conditions.
This Tenancy Letter, the Chapter Members’ Code, the Data Protection Notice and the Tenancy Terms and Conditions together form the Tenancy Agreement.
To secure your Room prior to 31st July, you must do the following within 3 days of receipt of this Tenancy Agreement (these three days being known as the Decision Making Period):
Nous voyons ici que la Tenancy letter ne correspond pas au Tenancy Agreement, puisqu'elle en fait partie...
Un peu de contexte :
This Tenancy Letter sets out the principal terms of your Tenancy.
The Tenancy is subject to the attached Tenancy Terms and Conditions and Chapter Members’ Code at Schedule 1.
You should read its terms before agreeing to the Tenancy Agreement.
By accepting the Tenancy Letter you will be confirming that you agree to the terms set out in this Tenancy Letter, the Chapter Members’ Code and the Tenancy Terms and Conditions.
This Tenancy Letter, the Chapter Members’ Code, the Data Protection Notice and the Tenancy Terms and Conditions together form the Tenancy Agreement.
To secure your Room prior to 31st July, you must do the following within 3 days of receipt of this Tenancy Agreement (these three days being known as the Decision Making Period):
Nous voyons ici que la Tenancy letter ne correspond pas au Tenancy Agreement, puisqu'elle en fait partie...
Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +3 | lettre de location |
Isabelle Biais
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| 3 | lettre récapitulative de la location |
AllegroTrans
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| 4 -1 | [lettre d'] offre de location |
Daryo
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Proposed translations
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Isabelle Biais
France
France
Native in French
France
Europe, Law, Sustainability, Technology
Native in: French 
Works in: German to French, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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4
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lettre de location
lettre de location ou lettre d'intention si on est au Québec (une des étapes de la négociation du contrat).
Note from asker:
| Merci ! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
B D Finch
: What this is called is almost a matter of in-house preference. "Tenancy letter" isn't, as far as I'm aware, a formal, legal name for a particular type of document; it's just a descriptive name.
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| agree |
Germaine
: ou offre de location (puisque la lettre fait partie intégrante de l'Entente de location).
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci !"
8 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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378
lettre récapitulative de la location
Extrapolating back from the context. It's a summary.
External sources (not reviewed)
(1) A response to a summary letter must be in writing.
ppt.gc.ca
(1) Une réponse à une lettre récapitulative doit être rédigée par écrit.
ppt.gc.ca
(3) Where a party provides a response to a summary letter after the delay, including after the recommendation is made to
ppt.gc.ca
(3) Si une partie fournit une réponse à une lettre récapitulative après le délai prescrit, notamment après que la recommandation a été faite au
ppt.gc.ca
External sources (not reviewed)
(1) A response to a summary letter must be in writing.
ppt.gc.ca
(1) Une réponse à une lettre récapitulative doit être rédigée par écrit.
ppt.gc.ca
(3) Where a party provides a response to a summary letter after the delay, including after the recommendation is made to
ppt.gc.ca
(3) Si une partie fournit une réponse à une lettre récapitulative après le délai prescrit, notamment après que la recommandation a été faite au
ppt.gc.ca
Peer comment(s):
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Germaine
: Je ne vois pas "récapitulative" dans "tenancy letter". Et de toute façon, il faudrait dire "récapitulative des conditions de location". // As I said: ce n'est pas la "location" qui est récapitulée. + redondance/tautologie dès la première phrase.
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to set out the principal terms = récapiltuler; an addition 100% in lne with the content that follows
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Daryo
: lettre récapitulative de l'offre de location // there is no Tenancy until this Tenancy letter is "accepted" // the source term is not "defective", it's simply their own jargon, which - surprise, surprise! - often leaves some elements implied
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That logic implies that the source term is also defective
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[lettre d'] offre de location
if you look at
-- the content: "This Tenancy Letter sets out the principal terms of your Tenancy"
and
-- the "user manual": By accepting the Tenancy Letter ...
you have all the elements that define an offer to conclude a contract, here a Tenancy.
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs (2018-10-12 05:44:38 GMT)
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a contract is concluded when an offer is accepted, so if "By accepting the Tenancy Letter ..." you become a tenant, then it's an offer to conclude a tenancy agreement.
-- the content: "This Tenancy Letter sets out the principal terms of your Tenancy"
and
-- the "user manual": By accepting the Tenancy Letter ...
you have all the elements that define an offer to conclude a contract, here a Tenancy.
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs (2018-10-12 05:44:38 GMT)
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a contract is concluded when an offer is accepted, so if "By accepting the Tenancy Letter ..." you become a tenant, then it's an offer to conclude a tenancy agreement.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
AllegroTrans
: I don't think the letter is an offer but just as the askers says: This Tenancy Letter sets out the principal terms of your Tenancy, so its's a summary
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have you read what comes after? like the bit "By accepting the Tenancy Letter ..."? do you "accept" a summary? // Sounds to me like basics of contract law ...
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Germaine
: Je serais d'accord avec "offre de location", mais "lettre d'offre de..." ne se dit pas en français.
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"offre de location" // j'ai ajouté comme option "lettre d'..." pour ceux qui ont trop peur de décoller de l'original.
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Discussion
Le problème avec les expressions plus ou moins consacrées, c'est le sens qu'elles peuvent avoir. Certains diront que "l'offre de location" émane d'abord du locataire; d'autres, qu'elle ne peut provenir que du bailleur. Certains encore verront une différence entre "lettre de location" (lettre d'intention) et "offre de location", comme cette source, par ex.:
http://droitdespme.com/informations-juridiques/les-baux-comm...
La définition d'une "offre de location" colle au texte soumis par Robin, mais imaginez le débat franco-qué-bécot-européen (déjà amorcé d'ailleurs)!
Sometimes, the best is just a K-I-S-S: keep it simple...
Ghits can be useful, but as only criteria that makes a translation neither right nor wrong.
When I have to translate a label (or a title of a paragraph, section, whole document), I prefer to look first at the actual content. And what I see here is a plain typical "offer to contract".
Looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck ... so what it is?
as in
By accepting the Tenancy Letter you will be confirming that you agree to the terms set out in this Tenancy Letter, the Chapter Members’ Code and the Tenancy Terms and Conditions.