Glossary entry

Indonesian term or phrase:

sah

English translation:

valid

Added to glossary by Agustinus
Sep 23, 2019 02:50
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Indonesian term

sah

Indonesian to English Law/Patents Law (general)
rapat direksi ini adalah sah dan berhak mengambil keputusan yang mengikat apabila lebih dari separuh anggota direksi hadir.

this meeting of board of directors is valid/legal/legitimate/lawful ?

apakah perbedaan makna valid, legal, legitimate, lawful? dan penempatan masing-masing terma dalam konteks apa saja?
mohon pencerahannya.

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terima kasih.
Proposed translations (English)
5 valid
5 meets the quorum

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valid


👨‍💼 legal dan lawful lebih cenderung merujuk ke kepatuhan kepada aturan luar dan lebih tinggi, misalnya undang-undang. UU mungkin mempunyai batas yang "longgar", misalnya rapat harus diadakan.

legitimate mirip dengan keduanya, namun kadang ada tambahan rasa/unsur pembenaran logis atau moral. Misalnya, rapat yang diadakan legitimate jika ada yang harus diputuskan dan diniatkan dengan tulus untuk mengambil keputusan, walau secara aturan hal itu tidak diwajibkan.

👩🏽‍💼 valid lebih kepada aturan sendiri, misalnya AD/ART perusahaan. Logisnya, aturan ini lebih keras, misalnya rapat harus diadakan di domisili perusahaan.

Berikut contoh pada dua perusahaan nasional dan satu Italiano.

💼 SURJAYA 💼
https://www.bankmandiri.co.id/documents/38268824/38269109/1....
Meeting of Board of Directors is valid and entitled to adopt binding resolutions if more than 2/3 (two thirds) from the total members of Board of Directors attend or represented in the meeting.

https://www.pelindo1.co.id/id/profil/Report/Annual-Report-20...
Board of Directors meeting is valid if held at the domicile of the Corporate or at any place within the territory of the Republic of Indonesia.

https://www.amicidipadrealdo.org/uploads/1/5/8/0/15805542/ap...
The Board of Directors meeting is valid when the majority of its components is present.
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37 mins

meets the quorum

Padanan alternatif yg diusulkan Agus sebenarnya sudah oke semua, tapi dalam konteks kalimat tsb saya cenderung mengusulkan:

sah = meet the quorum

Ref.:
The meeting's deliberations are recorded in formal minutes and all resolutions to be passed must meet the quorum requirements.
https://www.upcounsel.com/board-of-directors-meeting-definit...

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Note added at 41 mins (2019-09-23 03:31:54 GMT)
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In most cases, when the number of people present does not meet the quorum, they can only take limited procedural actions. They may, for example, fix the time and date for the next meeting.
https://marketbusinessnews.com/financial-glossary/quorum/

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Note added at 46 mins (2019-09-23 03:36:32 GMT)
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This new Board meeting meets the quorum, independently of the number of
attending Board members.
https://www.vdws.de/fileadmin/Fileuploads/user_upload/PDF/sa...
Note from asker:
thank you for the alternative answer :)
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