Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
masse embarquable
English translation:
permissible useful load
French term
Tunisia
masses embarquables
"La puissance seuil est par exemple égale à la valeur minimale de puissance déclarée par le constructeur dans les tables de performances servant à l’équipage pour déterminer les masses embarquables."
Would "onboard masses" be incorrect here? I don't think that it conveys that the "mass" isn't in the aircraft (helicopter) in the first place, loadable maybe?...
Thank you for your time.
Louisa.
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Cyril Tollari
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Oct 3, 2019 09:15: Cyril Tollari Created KOG entry
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Proposed translations
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Reliable & Experienced Engineer, EN>FR
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English
permissible useful loads
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Discussion
I think if you used any of the load terms, either payload or useful load, in this sentence it would work in a sense, as both need to be determined and both have allowable/permissible values. The useful load is from the performance tables and the payload is from calculating, but in terms of strict definition and technical terminology, 'masse embarquée' is useful load, so that's my answer.
Yes there are technical terms commonly used both in French and English. 'Charge utile' (payload) and 'masses embarquée' (useful load). The 'embarquable' to me means allowable/permissible in this context. The difference between payload and useful load is explained in this link that deals with helicopters.
https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00952559/document
This is a link mostly in French, but it has English equivalent terms as well. Just search for useful or payload in the link.
to me it's basically the tolerated load/mass allowed on the aircraft.
I just can't find and don't know if there is a technical term for this.
I see, is it because of the 'déterminer les masses embarquables'? I agree this could mean 'determine the loads' as in calculating, but reading it with a native eye, this could also mean 'check what the permissible useful loads are', as in checking a value in a table, in order to work out the payloads, like you said.
I would agree with your suggestion if you post it as an answer.
https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00952559/document
The '-able' suffix generally means 'able to be...' or 'that can be...', so your 'loadable' is along the right lines; however, here we are not really concerned with 'chargement', and so I think that any mention of 'load' may be inappropriate.
In some contexts, this might well be rendered as 'payload' — but it's not clear from the limited context given whether this would be appropriate here.