Mar 3, 2020 12:47
4 yrs ago
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French term
France
Native in: English
effect extinctif
French to English
Law/Patents
Finance (general)
subrogation
"Basée sur les articles 1250 et 1251 du Code civil luxembourgeois, la subrogation est une opération juridique triangulaire.
Elle permet à un tiers (le subrogé), qui paie la dette que le débiteur a à l’égard d’un créancier (le subrogeant), d'obtenir auprès de ce débiteur le remboursement de ce que le tiers a payé.
Ce paiement n’a pas un effet extinctif, mais translatif.
Elle permet à un tiers (le subrogé), qui paie la dette que le débiteur a à l’égard d’un créancier (le subrogeant), d'obtenir auprès de ce débiteur le remboursement de ce que le tiers a payé.
Ce paiement n’a pas un effet extinctif, mais translatif.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | resolutory effect |
Frank van 't Hoog
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| 4 +1 | effect of extinguishing the debt |
Adrian MM.
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| 3 +1 | extinctive effect |
Youssef Chabat
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| 4 | [See my suggestion for the whole sentence] |
philgoddard
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Proposed translations
+3
24 mins
Frank van 't Hoog
France
France
Works in field
France
Financial, legal, and medical
Native in: Dutch (Variants: Netherlands, Belgian Dutch, Suriname, Flemish) 
Works in: French to Dutch, English to Dutch, German to Dutch, and 8 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Selected
resolutory effect
This means the obligation will cease to exist after a certain event or act = effect extinctif
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
27 mins
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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81
French term (edited):
effet extinctif
effect of extinguishing the debt
Again, note the difference between as assignment, subrogation, novation of contract and factoring of receivables.
Daily Mail on Line readers' comments, typically: 'the affect of extincting the virus'.
Daily Mail on Line readers' comments, typically: 'the affect of extincting the virus'.
+1
59 mins
Youssef Chabat
Morocco
Morocco
Native in French
Morocco
A wordsmith at your disposal
Native in: Arabic (Variant: Standard-Arabian (MSA)) , French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: French to Arabic, English to Arabic, Arabic to French, and 6 more.
extinctive effect
refers to the extinction of a right or claim due to a time-lapse
1 hr
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
253
[See my suggestion for the whole sentence]
I've never posted the same answer to two questions before, but I suggest:
This payment does not extinguish the debt, but transfers it.
This payment does not extinguish the debt, but transfers it.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Josephine Cassar
: simple, all encompassing but depends on register
39 mins
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| neutral |
Adrian MM.
: Again, you have merely lifted my idea of adding the debt, but without attributing the credit.// Yes. You do. You have included my idea of debt &, contrary to ProZ glossary rules, conflated my answers to the related questions of extinctif and translatif.
3 hrs
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I don't understand what you mean by debit and credit, but I haven't lifted anything. My answer is more concise than yours.
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| disagree |
Daryo
: "My answer is shorter" is a completely irrelevant criteria in legalese. Legal texts (involving other people's money or rights - not to forget) are NOT the place for campaigning about translator's own style preferences.
11 hrs
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Criterion. Translators'. I may be a man of few words, but at least I can write English.
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