Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Is this not one way

English answer:

Isn\'t this way one method (to deal with the non-believers)

Added to glossary by cynthiatesser
Jun 27, 2020 11:01
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English term

Is this not one way

English Art/Literary Religion
Hello everybody.

I think I understand this sentence but I am not 100% sure. I am translating this text into Italian and the meaning of every word and phrase is very important to my client because a wrong interpretation may mislead the believers, so I do not want to misunderstand anything.

TEXT
Why is God so profoundly wrathful? Because God has defined the end and categorization of such people who detest the truth. God classes them in the camp of Satan, and because He is wrathful toward them, and detests them, God shuts the door on them, He does not permit them to set foot in the house of God, and does not give them the chance to be saved. This is one manifestation of God’s wrath. God also puts them on the same level as Satan, as filthy demons and evil spirits, as the nonbelievers, and when the time is right, He shall eliminate them. **Is this not one way of handling them?** And what awaits them once they’ve been eliminated? Never again will they enjoy God’s grace and blessings and the salvation of God. Such is the wrath of God.

Thanks in advance.

C.T.
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Discussion

cynthiatesser (asker) Jul 2, 2020:
@all Thank you!
Yvonne Gallagher Jun 27, 2020:
@ all these people would love to see all non-believers condemned ...the Devil's laws...see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME
Yvonne Gallagher Jun 27, 2020:
@ Asker God has lots of ways! This is just ONE of them!
Teangacha (X) Jun 27, 2020:
@ Phil I don't like the sound of him either!!!! I had to rein myself in. : )
philgoddard Jun 27, 2020:
I don't like the sound of this God guy. He needs some therapy for his anger management issues.
cynthiatesser (asker) Jun 27, 2020:
@Tina Thank you. You are offering an interpretation here, adding "(right)". It's the word "one" that puzzles me the most. If this is one way, God's way, what can the other ways be, then? Isn't there just one (right) way (God's way)?
Tina Vonhof (X) Jun 27, 2020:
@asker Re: your question to Yvonne: I think it is simply a rhetorical question, no other meaning intended: "Isn't this the (right) way of handling them?"

I agree with Teangacha but also with Yvonne. As translators, we should translate a text - any text we have accepted - to the best of our ability and stay true to meaning and intention.
Yvonne Gallagher Jun 27, 2020:
@ Asker @ Teangacha yes, like writers of most religious texts, the writer here is making excuses for "the wrath of God" putting it all down to non-belief, which isn't true of course. So yes, the writer is fairly certain that their readers are going to agree with this point of view.
However, the translator cannot express their own view here but merely mirror the view expressed, without going overboard of course! That's why I would definitely NOT translate this with an implication of admiration but rather just an expected agreement.
Teangacha (X) Jun 27, 2020:
@ asker It expresses the writer's utter contempt for nonbelievers and his belief that he and the reader are a group onto themselves. The 'them' implies a group apart from him/her and the reader.
It is the same contempt found in any belief in which one religion or race considers themselves superior to another, that their way is the only way and treats the other in atrocious ways, using religion or belief systems as a mask for cruelty and depravity.

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Isn't this way one method (to deal with the non-believers)

It's saying that God is not going to allow those he has classed as "in the camp of Satan" to have a path to salvation, because He "detests them". So those in the category of "camp of Satan" are to be eliminated "when the time is right"

So the method of dealing with them is to classify them and then "eliminate" them

Basically it's a rhetorical question, i.e. no answer needed

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Note added at 12 mins (2020-06-27 11:13:48 GMT)
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meant to delete "way"

Isn't this one method (to deal with the non-believers)

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Note added at 52 mins (2020-06-27 11:53:46 GMT)
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just rhetorical in my view. But then rhetorical questions basically expect you to agree with the premise/principle being expressed. But "admiration" is going too far. Just "wouldn't you agree that this is the way to deal with them?"

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Note added at 57 mins (2020-06-27 11:59:30 GMT)
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not even THE way but ONE way of handling (leaving it open to there being other ways of handling the non-believers as well)

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Note added at 5 days (2020-07-02 12:14:35 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped
Note from asker:
Thank you for this thorough explanation. Neverthless, what I need is not the religious meaning but a rephrasing of the question so as to undestand why it is asked that way. It has got more to do with the use of the language than with the meaning. Is it just a rhetorical question, which means nothing more than its literal sense, or does it mean something like "Isn'it it something?" expressing admiration? Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

agree Teangacha (X) : Tá fáilte romhat!!! : )
33 mins
go raibh maith agat//:-)
agree Édith Koumtoudji
2 hrs
Many thanks:-)
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
3 hrs
Many thanks:-)
agree philgoddard
4 hrs
Many thanks:-)
agree AllegroTrans : real fire and brimstone stuff, but that's what it means
6 hrs
Thanks:-) Oh yeah. But did you see those Florida anti-mask protesters? "My rights come from God" See Dbox
agree Rebecca Reddin : No admiration, it's a rhetorical question.
1 day 22 hrs
Many thanks:-)
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