German term
Altenrecht
Background:
Altenrecht
Die zunehmende Veränderung der Altersstruktur in der Bevölkerung hat in den letzten Jahren zu beachtlichen rechtlichen Konsequenzen geführt. Im Juli 2004 ist das Heimvertragsgesetz, das die privatrechtliche Beziehung zwischen Heimträger und BewohnerInnen im Konsumentenschutzgesetz regelt, in Kraft treten. Seit Juli 2005 wird darüber hinaus die Möglichkeit freiheitsbeschränkender Maßnahmen im Heimaufenthaltsgesetz geregelt. Mit dem Sachwalterrechts-Änderungsgesetz 2006 wurden umfassende Änderungen im Sachwalterrecht vorgenommen und Regelungen für Vorsorgevollmacht und Angehörigenvertretung geschaffen. Neben diesen Rechtsgebieten werden in der Vorlesung andere wichtige Bereiche des Altenrechts behandelt, das eine typische Mischmaterie zwischen privatem (zB Heimvertragsrecht, Persönlichkeitsrecht) und öffentlichem (zB Pflegegeld, Sozialhilfe) Recht darstellt.
Law regarding old people. It is a new area being defined, so probably no official translation yet (that I can find)
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Proposed translations
the body of law relating to the elderly
2) Re 'Elder(ly) law', the adjective applies to the noun in EN, i.e. law that is not recent
3) Brevity is generally a virtue but takes second place to clarity in legal contexts
4) It's not just one law but a 'body of law'. See examples here:
https://www.google.com/search?q="body of law relating to"&oq...
das Behinderten- und Altenrecht
the body of law relating to the disabled and the elderly
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'regarding' or 'relating to'?
http://www.justinhughes.ie/law-relating-to-the-elderly
https://www.russell-cooke.co.uk/familyandinheritedwealthdisp...
https://www.ramsdens.co.uk/team/mike-roberts
https://deanscourt.co.uk/barristerPDF?entryId=279
Thank you, my thoughts entirely |
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AllegroTrans
: Or simply law relating to the elderly (law uncapitalised to mean law in general and not a specific Law)
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Thanks. DH seems to be the new runaway leader with 'legislation governing'.
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philgoddard
: This is fine if you don't like "elder law".
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Thanks. Also for your observation on 'rights' (below).
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Elder Law
Elderly Law. By 2024 more than one in four of us will be over 60 and a girl born today has a 50% likelihood of living for 100 years. Get in Touch. “In the UK ...
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AllegroTrans
: This sounds distinctly like Engleutsch to my ears // OK it seems to work in the US but sounds strange to my UK ears!
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perhaps you should google it and when my mom was ill i Needed an Elder Law Att. to get her out of the hospital
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philgoddard
: This is fine. "Elder law" seems to be mostly US, though that may be because I'm using US Google. "Elderly" is OK on either side of the pond.
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Brent Sørensen
: https://books.google.de/books?id=0t4iBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA114&dq=Al...
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Daniel Arnold (X)
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Gordon Matthews
: This really doesn't work in the UK. The Elders are a group of independent global leaders working for peace and human rights. See https://theelders.org/
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UK: law relating to the old and infirm; Senior Citizen legislation
Senior Citizens if you will.
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... that, in my experience, has more than its fair share of 'alte Schachteln' and a receiver - now known in E+W as a Court of Protection Deputy - appointed ....
People in the United States who are more than sixty years of age are commonly referred to as senior citizens or seniors.
This Act shall be known as the "Expanded Senior Citizens Act of 2003."
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AllegroTrans
: "the elderly" for "Behinderten" (which was not part of the question)
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Thanks, Chris. I sense that Elder Law is US Am. + Can., though such 'Denglish' may well be creeping into E+W usage where Anglo-Am.-Can. Law Firms are so influenced, cf. franchise once meaning the right to vote BTW, 'handicapped persons' for Behinderten.
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law/legislation governing rights for the elderly/senior citizens
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Elder Law sounds awful but have been suprised before
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AllegroTrans
: Yes, we simply would not say Elder Law "over here"' I would leave out "legislation"
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Johanna Timm, PhD
: in Canada: "legislation governing seniors care"https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/accessing-health-c...
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Gordon Matthews
: Yes, although I would say "rights of..." rather than "rights for..."
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Ventnai
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Lancashireman
: So would you say that 'law' and 'legislation' are interchangeable? And is it only 'rights' that are covered (or, as you put it, 'governed')?
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philgoddard
: It's not just about rights. It includes things like wills and guardianship.
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Reference comments
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boring and maybe there's a snappier way to go
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AllegroTrans
: Not for UK, sounds like something from Anglo-Saxon times
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The Elders
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AllegroTrans
: They are also a species of tree
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philgoddard
: They don't have a monopoly on the use of this word.
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Lancashireman
: With you on 'Elder'. Do you think that 'Recht' in this context refers to the 'rights' of the elderly? A disenfranchised group in society? Dr Timm has also signed up to this version, rephrasing 'rights' as 'care'. What's your opinion on that?
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Discussion
AllegroTrans, you’re directing the traffic here. What do you think?
https://www.arnisonheelis.co.uk/elder-law/
And a British journal:
http://lexisweb.co.uk/sources/elder-law-journal
"Ranch owner Katie Elder's four sons determine to avenge the murder of their father and the swindling of their mother."
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059740/