Feb 16, 2021 11:23
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English term

"nkew" or "N.Q."

Non-PRO English Art/Literary General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters London accent (or Southern English pronunciation)
Hello!
The expression is taken from a George Orwell article published in 1945 in the UK weekly, the Leader Magazine. Orwell complains about the state of pronunciation in the south of England, including London. He gives a couple of examples, I only quote part of the paragraph:

"Most of us now speak in so slovenly a way that if you ask for a threepenny bus ticket you are as often as not given a three- halfpenny one, or vice versa. And how exactly would one write down the mystic formula which any two Londoners invariably utter after concluding a transaction? The nearest you could come to it would be “nkew,” or perhaps simply “N.Q.” Or take the current pronunciation of such words as “passionate,” “deliberate,” “vegetable,” “actual” or “average...”

Does anybody know what this "mystic formula", or "nkew" is about? And can you give a more explanatory context than the "concluding of a transaction"?
Thank you.

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vitaminBcomplex (asker) Feb 16, 2021:
It appears the other one has already been closed. Thank you.
Barbara Carrara Feb 16, 2021:
Asker You've posted this same question twice.
Please close one.

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Thank you

He is referring to "thank you" prononounced by Londoners in such a way as to sound like "nkew" or "NQ"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-02-16 15:30:17 GMT)
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I live in the south of England but I often hear this simply as "kew" or "Q." - i.e. with no "n" sound at all.

Really, Orwell's criticism of "slovenly" speech could be about pactically every accent and dilaect of every language on earth. "Clipping" of speech is prevalent everywhere.
Peer comment(s):

agree Liane Lazoski
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thanks
agree Victoria Britten : Yes indeed: you must have posted this while I was writing my comment!
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kew!
agree Sheila Wilson
2 hrs
thanks
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Notes and Queries

He refers to Notes and Queries, a long-running quarterly scholarly journal that publishes short articles related to "English language and literature, lexicography, history, and scholarly antiquarianism".[1] Its emphasis is on "the factual rather than the speculative".The journal has a long history, having been established in 1849 in London; it is now published by Oxford University Press.
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disagree AllegroTrans : No, this is simply about prononciation, not a journal
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Thank you

I grew up next to London, and have definitely heard something like this: the "th" sound disappears in "slovenly" speech (Orwell's description, not mine!).
It is a nightmare for foreigners, of course, and probably also for people hailing from some other parts of the anglophone world (including in Britain), but is fairly standard in and around (south) London.
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