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French term

alternance crédible

French to English Social Sciences Government / Politics Political organizations
Par exemple: cette organisation lutte contre la dictature et le gouvernement totalitaire qui oppresse le peuple. L'organisation vise à apporter une alternance crédible à Pluton.
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Conor McAuley Mar 26, 2021:
Sometimes it's useful to look up a term you... ...think you fully understand (and I'm talking about myself here)

Larousse

https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/alternance/25...

Politique

Succession régulière au pouvoir de partis ou de coalitions de partis, dans le cadre des institutions existantes. (L'alternance est facilitée par l'existence du bipartisme et l'emploi d'un mode de scrutin majoritaire).
Daryo Mar 26, 2021:
You are looking in the wrong direction this text is not about "l'alternance" as in France, or USA - where it's an ongoing process.

It's about a country with ONLY ONE political organisation. To initiate any process of "alternance" you first need to have ANOTHER political force to alternate to, to find it or to create it. And a credible one.

Not easy as in a dictature, dictators do their best/worst to eliminate any "credible alternative", so that there is simply no one else to alternate to at all, no "alternance" feasible.
Conor McAuley Mar 25, 2021:
"Nicolas Sarkozy : «Nous sommes la seule alternance crédible»www.lefigaro.fr › Actualité › Politique
10 déc. 2015 — INTERVIEW - L'ancien chef de l'État estime que voter pour les Républicains dimanche permettra de «sanctionner» les socialistes sans ..."

If you're talking binaries -- left/right -- "alternance" is fine. But what if, in the example above, power went from the Socialists, to some other, imaginary, party on the left, that's not "alternance", left to right, that's an alternative.

The words are available in French to say something like "une transition pacifique de pouvoir".

AC/DC -- alternating, binary.

Conclusion: "something else", change/changeover (see Lisa's answer) is good, I think, alternative.
Edier Quintana (asker) Mar 25, 2021:
Nikki Scott-Despaigne: The term is used accurately in the source text. The organization, as you point out, is indeed in the running to ensure that the political power will shift and alternance becomes a reality. That's the idea in the source text. Thanks.
Edier Quintana (asker) Mar 25, 2021:
Hi, Conor.
My example is the original text, except for Pluton, of course. What this organization wants is the normal succession of governments that characterizes democratic systems. The text is about an organization that wishes to put an end to a dictatorship that has been in power for a long time. I am here if you have more questions. Thanks so much.
Conor McAuley Mar 25, 2021:
I don't know whether the text the Asker has used is the actual context or random context.

Perhaps the author intended to use or should have used the word "alternative" in French?

Question and actual context are not clear -- can the asker clarify?
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Mar 25, 2021:
alternating - vs - alternative The terms are obviously related, but alternating power is what "alternance" (politique) is about. Whether the term is being used accurately in the source text or not is uncertain. Is the organisation aiming to be one alternative, among probable others? Or is the organisation actually in the running to ensure that the political power will shift and alternance become a reality?

Proposed translations

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a credible alternative


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Peer comment(s):

agree Victoria Britten : Well, yes...
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agree SafeTex
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neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Strictly speaking, the "alternance" here is "alternance politique" and about alternating power. That is not quite the same thing as an "alternative". There may be many alternatives without "alternance". But "alternative" may be how the term is used here.
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agree Sanjin Grandić
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agree Daryo
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a credible transition of power

See:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternance_politique
L’alternance politique se produit lorsque des partis appartenant à des courants politiques différents se succèdent au pouvoir. En pratique, l'alternance consiste généralement en un renversement de la majorité politique lors d'élections présidentielles et/ou législatives.

English version of the same page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_transition_of_power

A peaceful transition or transfer of power is a concept important to democratic governments in which the leadership of a government peacefully hands over control of government to a newly-elected leadership. This may be after elections or during the transition from a different kind of political regime, such as the postcommunist period after the fall of the Soviet Union,[2] or the elections in Libya following the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.[1]

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As a Chadian activist and Human Rights defender, and the coordinator of the Projet pour une Alternance Crédible au Tchad (Project for a credible change in power in Chad)

https://internetwithoutborders.org/internet-without-borders-...

Note from asker:
Transition would doubtless be a good rendering. However, "alternance" goes beyond a mere transition of power, it implies iteration, alternation, succession: one power, then another, another and so on. Transition is a change of state; "alternance" entails changes that occur over and over again. The organization in question does not advocate solely a change to another government, but a return to the democratic succession, alternation of powers.
Peer comment(s):

agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "Alternance" is about alternating political power, the transition being an expression of democracy. If the term is being used correcty in the soruce document, this would be an accurate rendering. The source may mean "alternative" though. ;-)
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agree Francois Boye
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disagree Daryo : in this case it's about creating/finding WHO will be the other party/political force to alternate to. In a dictature, dictators do their best/worst to eliminate any "credible alternative", so no there's no one to alternate to at all, no "alternance".
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agree Yvonne Gallagher : and with Nikki
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agree liz askew
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a realistic changeover

If an organization struggles against a dictatorship and a totalitarian government which oppresses people, the organization of a changeover of authority, power and leadership is not easy to imagine. Ideally the oppressive government would peaceably handover its authority to a democratically elected new leadership.

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'Political turnovers, changeovers or swings to or from a different political angle or system denote the regular passing over (succession) of power from parties pr coalitions, within the framework of the long-standing (existing) institutions. The changeover is enabled by the presence of bi-parties, which are political parties consisting of two groups, affecting or made of two groups or parties, bilateral. A bipartisan agreement or changeover of power consists of two political parties, or it's supported by two political parties, and the use of a majority vote system.'
www.dictionary,reverso,net/english-definition/bipartisan

FR: "L'alternance politique est la succession régulière du pouvoir de partis ou de coalitions de partis, dans le cadre des institutions existentes. (L'alternance est facilitée par l'existence du bipartidisme et l'emploi d'un mode de scrutin majoritaire."
www.larousse.fr.dictionnaires/français/alternance/2560
Example sentence:

Si une organisation lutte contre une dictature et un gouvernement totalitaire qui oppresse le peuple, l'organisation d'un changement d'autorité, pouvoir et commandement n'est pas facile d'immaginer.

Le gouvernement oppressif devrait remettre son autorité à une nouvelle direction, démocratiquement élue.

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