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May 17, 2021 19:26
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French term

La fatigue d’être parent ?

French to English Medical Psychology
Hi,

how would you translate the following phrase "La fatigue d’être parent ?" from French into English ?

Tiredness from being a parent ?
Parent tiredness ?
Tired of being a parent? (don't think this would be correct, the phrase in french would have had to be "fatigué d'être parent?")

Context : an article talking about Parental Burnout (Le Burnout Parental) in France. "La fatigue d’être parent ?" is a subtitle just after the main article title : Le Burnout Parental.

Many thanks !
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 Parenting fatigue
4 +3 Have your children worn you out?
4 +2 Parental fatigue
4 +1 Are you a stressed-out parent?
3 +2 Fed up of being a parent?
5 Parental Burnout
4 Parenting Exhaution
4 The Exhaustion of Being a Parent
References
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Discussion

Barbara Cochran, MFA May 19, 2021:
The fatigue is caused by the mental and physical stress of being a parent. There would be no burnout, based on the asker's source text, which uses that term, if no overwhelming mental stress, caused by a kid's obnoxious or demanding behavior, were present, which leads to overwhelming mental fatigue, which has an effect on the body, too. But It all starts in the mind, when the parent is assaulted by stressors, IMO. Therefore, I find the term " fatigue" unnecessarily ambiguous.
Nikki Scott-Despaigne May 19, 2021:
@Barbara "Stress reaction" is generally used to describe a biological/physical reaction. It is not really the same as psychological stress. There is confusion and also overlap, but that goes beyond what is mentioned here. The term posted is about "fatigue". ;-)
Nikki Scott-Despaigne May 19, 2021:
Burnout "Burnout", for clinical psychologists, might include "stress" and "fatigue". The type of stress can be defined further, as can the type of fatigue. Neither is a synonym for "burnout"; they are elements that may constitute a diagnosis of "burnout".
Barbara Cochran, MFA May 18, 2021:
Parental STRESS Fatigue VS Parental Fatigue Almost 32,000,000 more hits for the first "stress" option (multiple scholarly articles), as opposed to the second.
Barbara Cochran, MFA May 18, 2021:
I think it would be something more like "parental stress reaction".
Conor McAuley May 18, 2021:
I might as well add, as I'm here, just as an aside, that work burn-out has recently been recognised by the Sécurité Sociale, subject to certain conditions -- maybe parental burn-out will be next?
Barbara Cochran, MFA May 18, 2021:
But the asker's article refers to "Parental Burnout", as a result of stress. Hence, my response to your, "disagree".
Conor McAuley May 18, 2021:
Interesting Nikki, thanks.

Looks like no more context is going to be provided...
Nikki Scott-Despaigne May 18, 2021:
Speaking as a clinical psychologist... "Fatigue" features in a number of clinical descriptions but is not synonymous for "stress" or "burnout". Stress and fatigue are common features of "burnout" for example - and a number of other clinical presentations. One term cannot be substituted for another here. You may find the Maslach Burnout Inventory (MBI) helpful. It is not the only inventory but is used a lot by clinicians. Its original EN and FR versions can be found online.
writeaway May 17, 2021:
I would be very helpful so see more actual context instead of just an explanation in English
philgoddard May 17, 2021:
I wouldn't say anything with "parent", as this has already been mentioned as "parental" in the main headline. English avoids repetition.

Is this a self-help article for parents? If so, you could say something like "Kids getting too much for you?"

Proposed translations

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24 mins
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Parenting fatigue

Just sounds right to me and aligns with the trendy "Zoom fatigue," "COVID fatigue" and similar. Also, note about 4,000+ results for this phrase on Google at the moment...
Example sentence:

https://www.scarymommy.com/parenting-fatigue-blindsided/

Peer comment(s):
agree Katarina Peters
7 mins
Thanks, Katarina.
agree Bokani Hart
9 mins
Thanks, Bokani.
neutral Conor McAuley : More context required. Like "Zoom fatigue", the hits I found were fairly small complaints: "film fatigue", "Brangelina fatigue", "Kardashian fatigue": here, something very serious. / Agree to disagree! :-) Similar:"That's a bad look", used on CNN: no!!!!!
1 hr
Thank you, Conor, even though I still disagree & feel that "fatigue" does not trivialize this topic.
agree Verginia Ophof
3 hrs
Thank you, Verginia.
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : parental fatigue
18 hrs
Thanks, Nikki.
agree liz askew
19 hrs
Thanks, Liz.
agree AllegroTrans
3 days 4 hrs
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1 hr

Parenting Exhaution

''burnout'' could be defined as intense general fatigue. It is even defined as a syndrome. The suggestion aims at rendering that status of intensity.

''Being tired is different from being exhausted. If you are tired, you can have a good nights sleep and feel rested in the morning. If you are exhausted, your body aches with the desire to collapse, and ongoing fatigue can become your normal state of being.''

''A little-known reality is that exhaustion is a key trigger of more than 500,000 cases of postpartum depression a year.''

Reference:

https://medium.com/the-motherload/why-exhausted-parents-should-be-a-national-issue-a66785439954

https://www.happiestbaby.com/blogs/parents/the-price-of-exhaustion

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The Exhaustion of Being a Parent

Been there, done that!
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+1
54 mins

Are you a stressed-out parent?

Not very literal, but most people know that mental and physical fatigue is associated with stress, in this case from a child's demands and/or bad behavior.

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or "do your kids stress you out?"

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Or "are your kids wearing you out (mentally and physically)", if you want to stay closer to the idea of fatigue.

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Or "are you at the end of your rope as a parent/when it comes to your kids/"

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"Have you had it with being a parent?"

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at the end of one's rope (exhaustion, no more patience) : https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/at the end of rope

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"Are you an exhausted parent?" Mentally and physically exhausted, of course.
Peer comment(s):
agree Yolanda Broad
6 mins
Merci beaucoup, Yolanda.
disagree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : As a psychologist, qualified + trained in FR, the term "fatigue" has clinical meaning. "Stress" has a couple of specific meanings w/in psychology. "Fatigue" and "stress" are not syn. for a psychologist. ;-)//Correlated, indeed, not synonyms.
17 hrs
There is a definite correlation between stress and parental burnout, as seen in this article: https://www.parentingscience.com/parenting-stress.html
agree Zoe Lancet
1 day 13 hrs
Merci beaucoup, Zoe!
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+2
40 mins

Fed up of being a parent?

Showing on BBC Two right this second, strangely enough.

From the creator of "Catastrophe" and an actor know from several fairly big movies too:

"...here almost every character is a ***fed-up mother*** (with one or two novelty stay-at-home dads)."

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/motherland-s...

I think they say "fed up" in the US too.

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known from - correction

I've confirmed that "fed up" is used in the US.

I don't think that you need a trendy expression -- the article doesn't read like an article from French Vogue or anything.


As for repetition, the French uses "parental" and then "parent".

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"Are you a tired parent?"

"tired" takes in the mental and physical aspects of being on the way to burn-out, as I think is required, based on context that I've imagined.


Also, you could imagine parents reading this any nodding back or shouting "Yes I certainly am!" at their phones, tablets or even magazines.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Barbara Cochran, MFA : I think it would rather be "fed up WITH"./OK, I thought that might be the issue, but we would use "with" in the US. Although here is the US, we might say something like "I've had my fill of being a parent". Cheerio!
10 mins
The Oxford (UK) and Merriam-Webster (USA) dictionaries have entries for both.
neutral writeaway : fed up takes this in another direction. when people are fed up with doing something, it gives the idea of wanting to quit/stop. It's more (en) avoir marre than just fatigue
1 hr
Fair comment, I think. On reflection, you're right. Burn-out is mental and physical. "Fed up" is just mental. I'm assuming that the term is used to mean a stage on the way to burn-out.
agree Adrian MM. : fed up being vs. of or with. Obscure comments from non-parents are not very helpful.
1 hr
Thanks, but I now think my later answer, "Are you a tired parent?" is better / Or go full-on and say, "Are you half-way to parenting burn-out?", which is what I think the term describes.
neutral Libby Cohen : I tend to agree with writeaway as to the subtlety of this difference. As an overworked single parent, am pretty much in fatigue/exhaustion mode most of the time, but would NEVER say "fed up," which sounds like regret. I want to continue being a parent.
8 hrs
Thanks for the feedback, but I now think my later answer, "Are you a tired parent?" is better / Or go full-on and say, "Are you half-way to parenting burn-out?", which is what I think the term describes
agree Anne Schulz : Le Burnout Parental – La fatigue d’être parent? Due to the question mark and the duplicated title, it does seem to me like an allusion to the grey zone of 'tired from' vs 'tired of'. Context should tell whether or not this is the intended meaning.
9 hrs
Thanks Anne!
neutral AllegroTrans : wrong emphasis: you can suffer fatigue doing something rewarding and joyful, hein?
3 days 3 hrs
Chris, my later -- ""Are you a tired parent?" -- is better, but as I've said "x fatigue" trivialises it, given the collocations. Sometimes, I think, the asker is overwhelmed by all the notifications they get in their inbox, question framing too, hein ?
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+2
12 hrs

Parental fatigue

Parental fatigue or parental burnout seem to be the usual terms.
So, this being a question and depending on the precise context, it could be:
Parental fatigue?
Parental burnout?
Suffering parental fatigue?
etc.
Example sentence:

The influence of parental fatigue on parenting practices is not known.

Reference:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51740017_Parental_fatigue_and_parenting_practices_during_early_childhood_An_Australian_survey

Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : https://tinyurl.com/uaenrs6x (it's a Google hits page)
1 day 5 hrs
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Agree with term as alt. to "parenting fatigue", the latter being in the "doing", "parental" in the "being"? Beyond that, note that fatigue is a feature of burnout, not the other way round and that they are not synonymous. ;-)
7 days
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15 hrs

Parental Burnout

Example sentence:

when parents lack the resources needed to handle stressors related to parenting, they may develop parental burnout.

Reference:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332402868_Parental_Burnout_What_Is_It_and_Why_Does_It_Matter

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s42761-020-00028-4

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+3
18 hrs

Have your children worn you out?

A bit of a late entrant, but perhaps this idea gets the meaning across nicely and avoids repetition of the word 'parent' after the main title.

My suggestion's backed up by personal experience ;-)
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thank you, Phil
agree Marge Hogarty
23 hrs
Thank you, Marge
agree SafeTex : this follows on from the title "Parental burnout" and does not have any of the wrong connotations that I feel some other answers have
1 day 6 hrs
Thank you, SafeTex
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Reference comments

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Reference:

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Burn-out : le syndrome d'épuisement professionnel est une ...
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Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Memrci Liz! This, and sillions of other sources will point to how stress, fatigue and burnout are not synonyms, the two former terms being factors that contribute to a diagnosis of the third. ;-)
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