Jun 25, 2021 18:38
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Spanish term
Spain
entrega en depósito
Spanish to English
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Law: Contract(s)
vehicles
Estipulación 2: EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a través del concesionario/distribuidor del fabricante) entrega en depósito el vehículo anteriormente descrito sobre el que JUAN realizará las transformaciones.
The vehicle is being bought as a camper van by an end user, and JUAN is taking the vehicle ( a normal van) and transforming it.
TIA
The vehicle is being bought as a camper van by an end user, and JUAN is taking the vehicle ( a normal van) and transforming it.
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
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577
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will deliver/shall deliver
Spanish typically uses the present tense for stipilations in contracts
English typically uses does not
Much debate now takes place about "shall" (although it is in widespread legal use)
"Will" has the same implication
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SP: stripulations not stipilations
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Note added at 2 days 3 hrs (2021-06-27 22:38:18 GMT)
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stipulations
English typically uses does not
Much debate now takes place about "shall" (although it is in widespread legal use)
"Will" has the same implication
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Note added at 1 day 21 hrs (2021-06-27 16:18:22 GMT)
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SP: stripulations not stipilations
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Note added at 2 days 3 hrs (2021-06-27 22:38:18 GMT)
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stipulations
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delivers
EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a través del concesionario/distribuidor del fabricante) entrega en depósito el vehículo
THE CLIENT (either directly or through the auto maker’s dealership/distributor) delivers the vehicle
THE CLIENT (either directly or through the auto maker’s dealership/distributor) delivers the vehicle
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Robert Carter
Mexico
Mexico
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Mexico
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deposits / entrusts
"deposit
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Store or entrust with someone for safekeeping.
‘a vault in which guests may deposit valuable property’
More example sentences
‘He also suggested that to prevent such a theft we should have deposited the helmets with him for safekeeping.’"
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/deposit
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Just saw your comment in the discussion about "entrust", Matt, though I'm not sure why you weren't happy with it. It seems to convey the idea here well, i.e., entrusting property to someone else means leaving it with them on a temporary basis.
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Store or entrust with someone for safekeeping.
‘a vault in which guests may deposit valuable property’
More example sentences
‘He also suggested that to prevent such a theft we should have deposited the helmets with him for safekeeping.’"
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/deposit
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Just saw your comment in the discussion about "entrust", Matt, though I'm not sure why you weren't happy with it. It seems to convey the idea here well, i.e., entrusting property to someone else means leaving it with them on a temporary basis.
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Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
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Austria
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Spanish term (edited):
entregar en depósito
/does / bail to
sobre el que JUAN realizará las transformaciones ... to make conversions rather than tarnsformations, so like the *classic textbook examples* of a garage-owner receiving a motor vehicle for repair or a dry cleaner taking in clothes for cleaning.
Tender in or on bailment is redundant and confusable wth release on bail, so spelt bail and bailment rather than balement. Distinguish from a deposit, custody or trust.
Low confidence level so the asker can pick another answer with confidence.
As the ex-ProZ answerer in the first web ref., retd. English Solicitor William 'Bill' Harrison used to quip: ' if your sort doesn't understnd the term, then I am afraid I cannot help you.'
Tender in or on bailment is redundant and confusable wth release on bail, so spelt bail and bailment rather than balement. Distinguish from a deposit, custody or trust.
Low confidence level so the asker can pick another answer with confidence.
As the ex-ProZ answerer in the first web ref., retd. English Solicitor William 'Bill' Harrison used to quip: ' if your sort doesn't understnd the term, then I am afraid I cannot help you.'
Example sentence:
Bailment is a legal relationship in common law, where the owner transfers physical possession of personal property ("chattel") for a time, but retains ownership.
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: Technically yes, this would be bailment, but I don't think "entregar" is that "deep" in meaning, and "does" (present tense) doesn't work as a contractual stipulation in English
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let's make slight qualifications 1. the asker never picked up on Bill H's bailment translation already in the ProZ glossaries and 2. deliver or tender is only half the picture and ambiguous as to the tenure: absolutely or temporarily in trust or bailment.
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David Hollywood
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surrenders
El contrato de depósito es un contrato mediante el cual el depositante cede la tenencia de una cosa al depositario para que se encargue de custodiarla, debiendo este restituirla cuando el depositante la reclame.
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"leaves in" is better in this case
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Note added at 21 hrs (2021-06-26 15:55:07 GMT)
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"leaves in" is better in this case
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: This sounds like a permanent disposal, surely it's only for repairs to be carried out// "leave in" isn't formal enough imo
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ok and how about "leaves in" or "shall leave in" taking your legalese point on board
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Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Spanish, and 3 more.
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8
delivers to a depot
The depot could be a warehouse but the item for delivery is a vehicle.
The client brings the previously mentioned vehicle to a depot, where a trader or manufacturer's supplier shall deliver the vehicle to the man who carries out its adaptations or adjustments.
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"Estipulación 2: EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a través del concesionario/distribuidor del fabricante) entrega en depósito el vehículo anteriormente descrito sobre el que JUAN realizará las transformaciones."
"Stipulation 2: THE CUSTOMER (either directly or through the manufacturer's dealer/distributor) delivers the vehicle described above, on which JUAN will carry out the conversions."
https://www.deepl.com/es/translator#es/en/Estipulación 2%3A EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a trav%C3%A9s del concesionario%5C%2Fdistribuidor del fabricante) entrega en dep%C3%B3sito el veh%C3%ADculo anteriormente descrito sobre el que JUAN realizar%C3%A1 las transformaciones.%0A
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'en depósito' = 'in storage' or 'in a warehouse'
The client brings the previously mentioned vehicle to a depot, where a trader or manufacturer's supplier shall deliver the vehicle to the man who carries out its adaptations or adjustments.
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"Estipulación 2: EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a través del concesionario/distribuidor del fabricante) entrega en depósito el vehículo anteriormente descrito sobre el que JUAN realizará las transformaciones."
"Stipulation 2: THE CUSTOMER (either directly or through the manufacturer's dealer/distributor) delivers the vehicle described above, on which JUAN will carry out the conversions."
https://www.deepl.com/es/translator#es/en/Estipulación 2%3A EL CLIENTE (bien directamente o a trav%C3%A9s del concesionario%5C%2Fdistribuidor del fabricante) entrega en dep%C3%B3sito el veh%C3%ADculo anteriormente descrito sobre el que JUAN realizar%C3%A1 las transformaciones.%0A
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'en depósito' = 'in storage' or 'in a warehouse'
Example sentence:
El cliente entrega en depósito el vehículo ya mencionado y descrito, lo cual está depositado con un concesionario y distribuidor del fabricante, que entregará el vehículo sobre que se trabajará, al hombre que va a realizar sus adaptaciones.
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: "en depósito" effectively means "on deposit" not "to a depot"
1 day 21 hrs
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