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Jul 8, 2021 19:29
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French term

reconnaît davantage de droits à la raison

French to English Social Sciences Philosophy
From an academic text on 19th century French philosophy:

Saisset montre les tensions et différences qui traversent cependant ce camp adverse : rappelant la condamnation des thèses de Lamennais par Rome et jugeant celles de l’Abbé Bautain marginales, il distingue la position de l’Abbé Maret qui ***reconnaît davantage de droits à la raison,*** tout en lui refusant la connaissance de Dieu...

The article it refers to is here (p. 449)
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/De_la_philosophie_du_clergé
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 gives greater weight to reason
3 acknowledges a broader role for reason
3 gives more importance to reason

Discussion

Melissa McMahon Jul 10, 2021:
object of "lui refusant" I actually think what is being "refused" knowledge of God is "reason" rather than Abbé Maret, ie, reason can take you only so far as a path to knowledge, but can't go so far as to be a way of knowing God, which presumably is more something that is done through faith.
SafeTex Jul 10, 2021:
@ all In a previous question with "droits"" I said "absolutes" and later in a discussion, Conor said "attributes".
I think this sentence may be about recognising the attributes of God by reasoning.
Look at what follows. "tout en lui refusant la connaissance de Dieu...
So Saisset is saying that "Maret recognised a lot of God's attributes by means of reasoning but still did not truly know God".

Proposed translations

+3
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gives greater weight to reason

I think Marco's first suggestion is okay (broader role, but not expanded domain), but I think a physical metaphor of weight rather than breadth is more accurate to convey the idea that what reason says "counts more", that reason has more of a "say" or authority.
Peer comment(s):
agree Adrian MM.
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agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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agree SafeTex
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acknowledges a broader role for reason

Abbé Maret promoted a conciliation of science and faith.

You could say "an expanded domain" rather than "a broader role".

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Note added at 47 mins (2021-07-08 20:16:44 GMT)
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Also: "attributes a broader role to reason".

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Note added at 1 hr (2021-07-08 20:36:48 GMT)
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See this for the Abbé's thought on human intellect: https://books.google.ca/books?id=uOZPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA283&lpg=P...
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gives more importance to reason

I think it should be simpler without figurative use of breadth or weight. I would applaud either use in a more literary or poetic work, but the present text is rather staid.
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