Jul 27, 2021 13:39
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German term
Jagdspinnen
German to English
Art/Literary
Science (general)
Arachnology
Hi, I'm translating part of a novel called Ueber Menschen by Juli Zeh for my Master's Degree from German into English and have come across the word 'Jagdspinnen', full-sentence: Das hat ihr am meisten Angst gemacht. Nicht Jagdspinnen, Wasserrohrbrueche und fehlende Kulturangebote. I was just wondering whether the word has the same connotations in German as in English? In English, I can find the following translations, nursery web spiders, raft spiders, hunting spiders, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lesley
Proposed translations
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4 +3 | hunting spiders | Gordon Matthews |
4 +2 | nursery web spiders | Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X) |
4 | spider bites | Cillie Swart |
4 | creepy-crawlies | Lancashireman |
Change log
Jul 27, 2021 23:39: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "Arachnology"
Proposed translations
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hunting spiders
So far as I know, the novel is set in Germany, where one is unlikely to encounter tarantulas (thank God!). Hunting spiders are bad enough! Although "nursery web spiders" may be an accurate translation, I've never heard of them and they sound relatively harmless, whereas hunting spiders are something to be afraid of, even if one only suffers from mild arachnophobia.
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Thank you :-). That's really helpful. |
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Steffen Walter
: "Predator(y) spiders" might be another option. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdspinnen ("Die Jagdspinnen (Pisauridae), auch Raubspinnen genannt ..."), but "hunting" is probably more readily understood as an attribute.
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writeaway
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philgoddard
: I don't think most people will have heard of hunting spiders, and this could also mean 'looking for spiders'.
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Edmond Nawrotzky-Török
: You are welcome :)
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Comment: "Thanks Gordon. I think an British audience is more likely to understand hunting spiders than nursery web spiders. I also thought of false widow spiders. "
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nursery web spiders
says Wikipedia
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philgoddard
: This is the correct translation, but I doubt whether it would convey any clear image to readers. I think some poetic license is required - I'd say 'tarantulas' or 'giant/poisonous spiders'.
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Thanks Phil, and oh do I love tarantulas! :-)
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liz askew
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Thanks, Liz!
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spider bites
Great question !! Given the fact that she seems to be afraid, not so much of spiders as such, but the fact that they can bite, I would say spider bites. In other words, because of the prefix if you will of Jagd, it seems to insinuate that it is the attacking/aggressive/harmful/hunting nature of spiders or some spiders, that is causing concern, and not just spiders. Presumably she believes that spiders can also be cute and non-threatening (either because of the type of species being more peaceful, or if they are aggressive, when they are not in hunting mode).
So in short this seems to refer more to an action or verb than a noun, or the noun form of a verb ("bite") if that makes sense.
So in short this seems to refer more to an action or verb than a noun, or the noun form of a verb ("bite") if that makes sense.
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creepy-crawlies
No need to specify the type of spider here. In fact, the text calls for something a bit more imaginative.
"a spider, worm, or other small flightless creature, especially when considered unpleasant or frightening." OED
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/creepy-c...
"a spider, worm, or other small flightless creature, especially when considered unpleasant or frightening." OED
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/creepy-c...
Reference comments
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Fishing spiders (family Pisauridae) | spiderbyteshttps://spiderbytes.org › 2016/06/20 › fishing-spiders-f...
20 Jun 2016 — Fishing spiders are members of the family Pisauridae, commonly known as nursery web spiders. Female spiders in this family make excellent ...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-07-28 08:58:06 GMT)
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Fishing spiders (family Pisauridae) | spiderbyteshttps://spiderbytes.org › 2016/06/20 › fishing-spiders-f...
20 Jun 2016 — As their common name suggests, fishing spiders make a living hunting for fish, tadpoles, and aquatic invertebrates. They can walk on water and ...
20 Jun 2016 — Fishing spiders are members of the family Pisauridae, commonly known as nursery web spiders. Female spiders in this family make excellent ...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-07-28 08:58:06 GMT)
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Fishing spiders (family Pisauridae) | spiderbyteshttps://spiderbytes.org › 2016/06/20 › fishing-spiders-f...
20 Jun 2016 — As their common name suggests, fishing spiders make a living hunting for fish, tadpoles, and aquatic invertebrates. They can walk on water and ...
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Thanks Liz. |
Discussion
And as Phil intimates, hunting spiders isn't such a daunting prospect for a budding arachnologist.