Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

m

English answer:

meter

Added to glossary by Charlesp
Jan 24, 2022 15:22
2 yrs ago
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English term

m

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I am looking for some consensus opinion advice, about abbreviating meter in US English (or not).

"m" can of course be used as the abbreviation for meter, but isn't it better to write it out? (unless it is a table or something like that)

Shouldn't it be written (e.g.) "The ship is 30 meters long" (and not "The ship is 30 m long"

Any opinions?
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Discussion

Juliana Moretto Jan 26, 2022:
Thanks, Charles!
A final observation, as I said, I continue to agree that in technical, math, phisics or any "areas like that" texts, you can and should use "m".
"m" is an international recognized unit and is part of SI (is the length measurement international standard unit)
https://www.nist.gov/pml/weights-and-measures/metric-si/si-u...
but for texts not in these areas (that usually dont repeat units during the text), like in the example you gave, you should use meter.
"The mile has been variously abbreviated in English—with and without a trailing period—as mi, M, ml, and m.[4] The American National Institute of Standards and Technology now uses and recommends mi to avoid confusion with the SI metre (m) and millilitre (ml).[5] However, derived units such as miles per hour or miles per gallon continue to be abbreviated as mph and mpg rather than mi/h and mi/gal. In the United Kingdom, road signs use m as the abbreviation for mile though height and width restrictions also use m as the abbreviation for the metre, which may be displayed alongside feet and inches." https://en.wikipedia.org/Mile
Charlesp (asker) Jan 25, 2022:
I agree with Tony M: and clearly it is better to write it out, as that avoids the possibility for misunderstanding, e.g. that it is not referring to miles...

One has to be super careful with international texts; texts that will be read in a wide variety of jurisdictions
Barbara Carrara Jan 24, 2022:
Charles What is your client's preference? Have you discussed this with them?
Do you not have a reference style guide?
Have you try searching the Chicago and/or the MLA style manuals at all?

Responses

+4
7 mins
Selected

meter

In a text you should write in full
In tables or numeric texts like a math question ou technical text where you repeat it a lot, you use it abbreviated.

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Note added at 9 mins (2022-01-24 15:32:06 GMT)
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*or technical

Note from asker:
Thanks. That is what I was thinking; I just needed some support for this here...
Peer comment(s):

agree Charlotte Fleming : You could write it in full the first time with "(m)" after it, and use "m" for the rest of the text.
5 mins
Thank you, Charlotte
agree ATIL KAYHAN
24 mins
Thank you, ATIL
agree AllegroTrans
56 mins
Thank you, AllegroTrans
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thank you, philgoddard
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. (btw, I don't think this is a "non-Pro" question - despite the votes to classify it as that; only professionals would have a view and perspective on this complex issue.) My conclusion is that with international texts, it should be write it out (to avoid the possibility of misunderstanding),."
+6
17 mins

m or meter

It all depends on the text.
In a technical text - and especially if there are many occurrences of 'meter' - it is better to abbreviate to 'm'. The use of abbreviations is all the more helpful if the full name of the measurement unit is rather long and wordy, as for example 'Angstrom unit' ---> AU or kilowatt-hour -->kW-h
If, in contrast, the text is a novel about shipwrecked mariners, it would be better to write 'meters' in full; eg: 'the ship lay five fathoms down, just one hundred meters from the shore'.
Whatever you decide to do, you must do it consistently within the same text - and apply the same rule to all measurements (and perhaps other abbreviations as well).
Peer comment(s):

agree Tina Vonhof (X)
10 mins
agree Bashiqa
18 mins
agree Tony M : I agree — you wouldn't want to write out 'kilowatts' or 'centimetres' every time, now would you? The only excpetion, perhaps, might be in a document that also uses 'miles' — but in that case, it's the 'mlles' that I would write out in full.
1 hr
agree Tomasso : Small m, seems capitalized M is something else, https://usma.org/correct-si-metric-usage
12 hrs
agree Lara Barnett
20 hrs
agree Yvonne Gallagher
2 days 20 hrs
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