Aug 23, 2022 21:31
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French term

biais horaire

French to English Other Computers: Systems, Networks Call to tender
French from France.
Call for tender document explaining what the applicant needs to submit.

"l’hébergeur doit certifier que toutes les informations présentes sur les journaux
sont exploitables au regard de l’état de l’art (pas de biais horaire ou biais
horaire maîtrisé et documenté, journaux déportés ou copiés sur une autre
machine, etc.)."

Is it just "time period"?

Discussion

FPC Sep 23, 2022:
It's been a month Could you get back with your solution? How did you translate it?
FPC Aug 30, 2022:
@ Asker I join Wolf in asking what choice you've finally made and why no proposed translation was acceptable.
FPC Aug 25, 2022:
Four variations on a theme Looking up "biais horaire" I found out it's used with reference to at least four notions. The underlying idea is that of "bias", although in slightly different senses.

1) bias or a systematic error in a value of some variable measured or evaluated OVER time (1 hour for the case in point). Not error in the evaluation/measurement OF time. It's used here in French https://archive-ouverte.unige.ch/unige:79691 and here in English https://www.weather.gov/media/erh/ta2005-03.pdf

2) bias in time measurement and calculation (see suggestion by others above), as in the ITU document

3) bias or influence of the time of the day on observations, or dependency as said above by someone else, see here: https://www.isere.gouv.fr/content/download/35498/259453/file...

4) finally it's used as trend or probabilistic prediction of trend in the price in some type of financial trading
Wolf Draeger Aug 25, 2022:
@Asker Could you please explain why you've declined every answer?
philgoddard Aug 23, 2022:
Context This is about mutualised hosting which, if I understand it correctly, is clients sharing a server. The "journaux" are records of things that happen on the server. See 3.1 here:
http://www.cert.ssi.gouv.fr/information/CERTA-2005-INF-005/

Proposed translations

2 hrs

time of day dependency

Declined
Going out on a limb here....

I think it refers to inaccuracies in the data that may be more severe at certain times of the day (or on certain days of the week).
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2 hrs

time errors / bias in time data

Declined
It may refer to systematic errors in timekeeping reflecting on time data in a log?

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=203047
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+1
2 hrs

time/clock drift

Declined
A semieducated guess, but from what I gather it's the discrepancy between the internal clock of a computer (server) and an authoritative time source. If your machine's clock is not correctly synced, you will accumulate all kinds of problems.

I should think journaux are logs.

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/time-drift-power8-and-powe...
https://www.servernoobs.com/fixing-time-drift-in-the-servers...
https://www.bluematador.com/docs/troubleshooting/time-drift-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_drift
Peer comment(s):

agree Conor McAuley : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_drift "In particular, the drift of crystal-based clocks used in computers requires some synchronization mechanism for any high-speed communication."
1 hr
Ta.
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-1
10 hrs

time warp

Declined
Alternative translation to "time bias", the sense is that there must be no temporal distortions in all the information present on the logs.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : Can you quote a single document written by a relevant expert using this term? // "let's do the time warp again" doesn't count ...
20 hrs
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1 day 6 hrs

clock bias

Declined

https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/hdb/R-HDB-55-2010-OAS-...

https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/hdb/R-HDB-55-2010-OAS-...

look for biais / bias in these two documents.

Key point: these are official documents of ITU (=L'Union internationale des télécommunications)

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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs (2022-08-25 04:34:17 GMT)
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also, the currently valid "reference document" for security of outsourced IT services:

https://www.ssi.gouv.fr/uploads/IMG/pdf/2010-12-03_Guide_ext...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Wolf Draeger : So you agree with my answer, then...and your ITU refs relate to satellite/GPS time, not servers. // Clock bias and clock drift are either the same thing or the former only applies to GPS and satellite navigation, not server hosting and event logs.
9 hrs
"systemic errors / biases" is nowhere near "drifting" + if you can not recognise that the 24 GPS satellites are in effect a computer network that requires an extremely precise time synchronisation, then ...
neutral FPC : It's one of the uses I've encountered looking up the terms. But that there's another usage of biais horaire, in which time is not the biased variable but the evolution parameter.
17 hrs
context counts for nothing? Relevant official documents of the relevant international organisation are the same as just a "list of occurrences" churned out by a general purpose search engine? Yeah sure, very convincing method ...
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2 days 2 hrs

hourly bias

Declined
See my comment in the section below for this specific translation and its relevance (up to you to decide whether its a good fit for your text, as it is in other contexts)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : yes, that's the general idea, but if you take the trouble to look at relevant documents in detail the exact term used is "clock bias".
10 days
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Reference comments

2 hrs
Reference:

I think they mean "bias" or "systematic error" in data. The sentence may mean that the time data should not contain bias/systematic errors unless this error is controlled (maitrisé) and properly documented/reported (documenté).
I link two versions of a page form Stat Canada just to show that "biais" should translate as "bias" (in statistics and data science)
https://www.statcan.gc.ca/fr/quo/bdd/variance_biais
https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/dai/btd/variance_bias
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