Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Urne

English translation:

urn/pot

Added to glossary by Neal Allen
Oct 25, 2022 05:11
1 yr ago
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German term

Urne

German to English Other Education / Pedagogy
This is from a Freie Waldorfschule curriculum:
Context: Der Mathematikunterricht bestand aus drei Teilen. Der ersten Epoche Kombinatorik, in der die Schülerinnen und Schüler Mengen und Permutationen sowie deren mathematische Beschreibung, das Nutzen und Rechnen von Fakultät und das Ziehen mit und ohne Zurücklegen aus einer Urne kennenlernten.

Is there another meaning than urn that is related to drawing?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 urn/pot
4 container

Proposed translations

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urn/pot

This is referring to the Urnenmodell, so I think it's important in a curriculum to keep the word "urn" here. However, if you're providing a description of what is entailed, especially for children, I'd consider calling this a pot.

See:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urnenmodell#:~:text=Ein Urnenm...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urn_problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO4xpxvqnIM (where "Topf" is used in the explanation"
Peer comment(s):

agree Brent Sørensen
1 hr
Thank you, Brent
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thanks, Phil
agree Jennifer Caisley : You got there first, Sarah - I like "pot"! :)
1 hr
Thank you, Jennifer
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : Hi there!
1 hr
Thanks, Ramey. Long time no hear!
agree Cillie Swart : seems plausible, thanks for sharing
1 day 4 hrs
Thanks, Cillie
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, Sarah."
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container

I'm not sure if you might have misread "Ziehen" in your source text as "Zeichnen"?

In this instance, it's about taking balls/similar out of a container of some sort and putting them back in to help children learn how to count - there's a fuller explanation of this here:
Für das Urnenmodell mit zurücklegen gilt: Aus der Urne wird eine Kugel gezogen. Die Nummer wird aufgeschrieben und im Anschluss wird die Kugel wieder in die Urne geworfen. (link below)

It looks like this draws on an actual mathematical approach called the "urn problem" ("In probability and statistics, an urn problem is an idealized mental exercise in which some objects of real interest (such as atoms, people, cars, etc.) are represented as colored balls in an urn or other container."), but honestly in your text, I'd be tempted to just call this "Urne" a "container" (an "urn" always makes me think of ashes!).
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : Welcome back! You should answer more questions here - you have a lot to contribute.
1 hr
It's good to be back, Phil (a busy few months at my end!). Hope you're keeping well!
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