Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

solicito se acumulen

English translation:

cumulation

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Spanish term

solicito se acumulen

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general)
From a Mexican law suit, pls see below thanks. I did see "compounding" but this isn´t about sums but rather adding up or bringing together all the crimes under one big law suit instead of several ones. Many thanks

Asimismo, solicito, conforme a la fracción I del artículo 30 del Código Nacional de Procedimientos Penales, solicito se acumulen las carpetas de investigación xxx, xxxx, xxx y xxx , radicadas en esta Fiscalía General de la República, lo anterior en virtud de que todas ellas, en conjunto, investigan hechos que derivan en un concurso real de delitos.
Ahora bien, si de los hechos que se relatan se desprende la comisión de algún delito para cuya persecución la ley exija la formulación de querella o requisito de procedibilidad equivalente, solicito desde este momento se tenga por formulada y/o satisfecho, según sea el caso

Discussion

José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
Courts, tribunals and Justice organisations in Scotland
PROCURATOR FISCAL, ELGIN v. EUAN PATRICK MASTERSON
the question of the cumulation of several similar charges within a single indictment.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=6...
José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
"Unidiomatic", "Not a legal term"? For those who pretend that my answer is unidiomatic or that 'cumulation' may not be "a legal term", let the Asker make her decision!

Why don’t you reach out to the Cornell Law School, the Sentencing Advisory Council of Australia, and the Supreme Court of Louisiana, and put forward your argument on the wrong use of “request” and “cumulation”?
1) In court proceedings, a request is when a party asks the court or opposing counsel to act, demands a right, or asks a question.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/request

Concurrency and Cumulation
Sentencing Advisory Council of Australia
https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/about-sentencing/co...

The stated reasons for this rule were that a cumulation of offenses could create prejudice against the accused, and would increase the likelihood that a jury might use.
https://law.justia.com/cases/louisiana/supreme-court/1977/35...
José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
Sandro Human rights and criminal procedure
The case law of the European Court of Human Rights
The court set out the circumstances of the applicant’s arrest and took account of
a cumulation of facts …
About the author: Barrister, Monckton Chambers, London; Visiting Professor, Central European University; member of the Scientific Committee of the European Union’s Fundamental Rights Agency; co-founder and Chair of INTERIGHTS (the International Centre for the Legal Protection of Human Rights); and Editor, Butterworths Human Rights Cases
Jennifer Levey Jan 15, 2023:
@Sandro "Adrian already nailed it with joinder and consolidation.". With all due respect (to Adrian, first and foremost) he has not 'nailed' anything at all. He has merely expressed an opinion as to the appropriate translation of the ST expression.
Sandro Tomasi Jan 15, 2023:
@José Again, not source texts. So why echo messages in English from bad English translations?
José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
Sandro EU Charter of Fundamental Rights
The rule prohibiting cumulation refers to cumulation of two penalties of the same kind, that is to say criminal law penalties.
https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/50-right-not-be-...

Cumulation of administrative and criminal sanctions and the ne bis in
idem principle
https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/201...
Sandro Tomasi Jan 15, 2023:
@José As an adjective, cumulatively, yes, but not a as a noun, cumulation. If anything, legal English will use the term accumulation, but not for said context.

The text you cite is taking European concepts and translating them into English that is not used in English-speaking countries. And if it is, like Louisiana, it is derived from the European concept.
José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
International criminal law Cumulation of offences and purposes of sentencing in international criminal law. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235166741...
José Julián Díaz Jan 15, 2023:
The court will order individual sentences imposed for any other charges in the case to be served with the principal sentence concurrently, cumulatively, or partially cumulatively and partially concurrently.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/about-sentencing/co...
Sandro Tomasi Jan 15, 2023:
@Jennifer Adrian already nailed it with joinder and consolidation.
Jennifer Levey Jan 14, 2023:
@Sandro Maybe you'd do well to post your answer to the question, then wait to see what your peers think about it.
Sandro Tomasi Jan 14, 2023:
@Jennifer So far I am not seeing any English from target jurisdictions, but English translations from source jurisdictions. Even the Louisiana Code, despite the fact that it is from the US, is based originally from French.
Jennifer Levey Jan 14, 2023:
@Sandro 'cumulation' may not be "a legal term" in your part of the world, but in many other jurisdictions it most certainly is.
Hence the comment in my answer: "Not(e) that the 'preferred' English term may depend on your target jurisdiction"
FWIW, my 2nd webref is a review of the way "cumulation" works (or fails to work, as the case may be) in a number of European jurisdictions.
Sandro Tomasi Jan 14, 2023:
Cumulation is not a legal term The legal terms are joinder and consolidation. In this context, it is joinder.

Proposed translations

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cumulation

https://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/ccp/ccp461

"Cumulation of actions is the joinder of separate actions in the same judicial demand, whether by a single plaintiff against a single defendant, or by one or ... ..."

Not that the 'preferred' English term may depend on your target jurisdiction.

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352523504_Gloss_to_...

" ...taken in the judgment passed on 20 March 2018 in the case of Luca Menci ... erefore, the cumulation of proceedings and sanctions. ..."
Peer comment(s):

agree Andrew Bramhall
5 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thx"
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Spanish term (edited): acumularse

be joined together; consolidated

solicito se acumulen las carpetas de investigación : ... did seek the joinder of the investigation files.

acumular: try jointly two or more actions, unite, join or combine, Butterworths.

Consolidation of (criminal) cases and appeals applies both to E&W and the USA.

On 'cumulation', Louisiana uses both 'Franglais and Spanglish' in its Codes.

In this case, it is the 'carpetas' - files or bundles, rather than the carpets - that are 'bundled or added together'.

Alas, certain Magic Circle firms of Solicitors - in London & Madrid - keep off low-paying criminal cases.
Example sentence:

Consolidation occurs when the appeals of two or more parties are united for consideration because they contain identical or similar issues. For example, individual appeals rising from a single reduction in force might be consolidated.

If two or more cases have been tried together or consolidated for trial, the cases are consolidated for the purpose of review unless the appellate court otherwise directs.

Peer comment(s):

agree Sandro Tomasi : solicito se acumulen las carpetas de investigación xxx,... > I have an application for the joinder of Dockets xxx,...
1 hr
agree AllegroTrans : joinder/consolidation
8 hrs
disagree José Julián Díaz : Cumulation of offences and purposes of sentencing in international criminal law. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235166741...
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I request the cumulation

I request the cumulation of the criminal investigation files...

CÓDIGO NACIONAL DE PROCEDIMIENTOS PENALES (MÉXICO)
CAPÍTULO III ACUMULACIÓN Y SEPARACIÓN DE PROCESOS
Artículo 31. Competencia en la acumulación
Cuando dos o más procesos sean susceptibles de acumulación, y se sigan por diverso Órgano jurisdiccional, será competente el que corresponda, de conformidad con las reglas generales previstas en este Código, ponderando en todo momento la competencia en razón de seguridad; en caso de que persista la duda, será competente el que conozca del delito cuya punibilidad sea mayor. Si los delitos establecen la misma punibilidad, la competencia será del que conozca de los actos procesales más antiguos, y si éstos comenzaron en la misma fecha, el que previno primero. Para efectos de este artículo, se entenderá que previno quien dictó la primera resolución del procedimiento.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/RelatedRecords/C...


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Cumulation of offences and purposes of sentencing in international criminal law. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235166741...

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Human rights and criminal procedure
The case law of the European Court of Human Rights
The court set out the circumstances of the applicant’s arrest and took account of
a cumulation of facts …
https://rm.coe.int/16806f0ef9



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For those who pretend that my answer is unidiomatic or that 'cumulation' may not be "a legal term", let the Asker make her decision!

Why don’t you reach out to the Cornell Law School, the Sentencing Advisory Council of Australia, and the Supreme Court of Louisiana, and put forward your argument on the wrong use of “request” and “cumulation”?
1) In court proceedings, a request is when a party asks the court or opposing counsel to act, demands a right, or asks a question.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/request

Concurrency and Cumulation
Sentencing Advisory Council of Australia
https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/about-sentencing/co...

The stated reasons for this rule were that a cumulation of offenses could create prejudice against the accused, and would increase the likelihood that a jury might use.
https://law.justia.com/cases/louisiana/supreme-court/1977/35...


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Courts, tribunals and Justice organisations in Scotland
PROCURATOR FISCAL, ELGIN v. EUAN PATRICK MASTERSON
the question of the cumulation of several similar charges within a single indictment.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=6...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Jennifer Levey : How does your answer differ from my own - apart from adding 'I request the ...', which Asker could most probably translate without our assistance?
9 hrs
That's precisely why, because you assume the Asker could most probably translate without our assistance, I don't.
disagree Andrew Bramhall : Your answer, even your refs, are unidiomatic; CL5 ???
18 hrs
LOL You agree with Jennifer Levey (cumulation) and disagree with me (I request the cumulation). No further comments!
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