Feb 6, 2023 13:38
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langue limite
French to English
Medical
Medical: Cardiology
List of observations for patient hospitalised for decompensated heart failure:
"Observation:
Douloureuse cette nuit, insomnie
reprise traitement hypnotique
majoration antalgique
tension artérielle basse sans malaise, soif ++, début de pli cutanée, langue limite
-> diminution minime lasilix + diminution béta bloquants"
Is it something to do with the patient's speech? Or actually something to do with their tongue?
"Observation:
Douloureuse cette nuit, insomnie
reprise traitement hypnotique
majoration antalgique
tension artérielle basse sans malaise, soif ++, début de pli cutanée, langue limite
-> diminution minime lasilix + diminution béta bloquants"
Is it something to do with the patient's speech? Or actually something to do with their tongue?
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Stuart and Aida Nelson
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alteration of tongue colour, coating [and possibly texture]
See references at the bottom
A change in tongue colour could be an indicator for heart failure, cardiologists have warned. Research presented at the Heart Failure Association claims that two specific colour changes are commonly found in people suffering from heart failure.
“Normal tongues are pale red with a pale white coating.
“Heart failure patients have a redder tongue with a yellow coating and the appearance changes as the disease becomes more advanced.
“Our study found that the composition, quantity and dominant bacteria of the tongue coating differ between heart failure patients and healthy people.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1534349/heart-di...
limite = also out of order
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Limite = presque déplacé, osé
https://www.wordreference.com/fres/limite
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Warning signs can appear on your skin and nails, which is why your dermatologist may be the first doctor to notice that you have heart disease.
Changes to your tongue, such as it swelling and turning red as a strawberry
https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/a-z/heart-disease-warnin...
or just simply changes to the tongue
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Comment: "Thank you, I went with "changes to the tongue" with a note to the client as it wasn't clear what change was being described in the very vague text. "
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8 mins
borderline (significant) tongue aspect
Insuffisance cardiaque : quelle est la couleur de votre langue ?
https://www.passionsante.be › ... › insuffisance cardiaque
Un simple examen visuel de la langue pourrait-il fournir une indication sur le développement d'une insuffisance cardiaque ? La présence de bactéries ...
21 juin 2022 — A red tongue with a yellow coating may indicate that you're at greater risk of heart disease, the study suggested.
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The tongue aspect is close to abnormality which would point to cardiac failure.
https://www.passionsante.be › ... › insuffisance cardiaque
Un simple examen visuel de la langue pourrait-il fournir une indication sur le développement d'une insuffisance cardiaque ? La présence de bactéries ...
21 juin 2022 — A red tongue with a yellow coating may indicate that you're at greater risk of heart disease, the study suggested.
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The tongue aspect is close to abnormality which would point to cardiac failure.
Note from asker:
| Thank you but could you explain your answer a bit more? What do you mean by "borderline tongue aspect"? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: There's no way of knowing what this actually looks like.
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Thank you Phil.
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liz askew
: what does this mean?
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The tongue aspect is close to abnormality which would point to cardiac failure.
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slightly bluish tongue
Symptoms of central cyanosis
This is manifested by bluish or purple discoloration of tongue and lips and mucous membranes of the mouth.
In heart failure, lung embolism, pneumonia or acute severe attack of asthma, the cyanosis may have a sudden or abrupt onset as the patient “begins to turn blue” due to lack of oxygen.
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Symptoms-of-cyanosis.asp...
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@Emily, answer to a note
I'm pretty sure you won't find a reference for that. "Limite" is colloquial French for "almost" or "borderline". When there's no word following "limite", it is implied. In this case I guess it should be "langue limite bleue" which means "langue dont la coloration tend un peu vers le bleu".
This is manifested by bluish or purple discoloration of tongue and lips and mucous membranes of the mouth.
In heart failure, lung embolism, pneumonia or acute severe attack of asthma, the cyanosis may have a sudden or abrupt onset as the patient “begins to turn blue” due to lack of oxygen.
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Symptoms-of-cyanosis.asp...
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@Emily, answer to a note
I'm pretty sure you won't find a reference for that. "Limite" is colloquial French for "almost" or "borderline". When there's no word following "limite", it is implied. In this case I guess it should be "langue limite bleue" which means "langue dont la coloration tend un peu vers le bleu".
Note from asker:
| Thanks Charles but could you explain how "limite" comes into this? Do you have any French references? |
3 hrs
borderline dry tongue
From my research a dry tongue is associated with heart failure.
Pain Management of AIDS Patients - Page 41 - Google Books result
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https://books.google.co.uk › books
Thomas Janisse · 2012 · Medical
... such as orthostatic hypotension, decreased skin turgor, and dry tongue, ... These dehydrated patients are often hemodynamically only borderline stable ...
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Nursing Diagnosis Manual: Planning, Individualizing, and ...
google.co.uk ·
https://books.google.co.uk › books
Marilynn E. Doenges, Mary Frances Moorhouse, Alice C. Murr · 2022 · Medical
... possibly evidenced by dry mucous membranes, poor skin turgor, ... increased pulse rate, decreased skin and tongue turgor, dry skin and mucous membranes.
OR
even better
borderline tongue turgor
they are look at the tongue to see how it is affected by dehydration
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Brunner & Suddarth's Textbook of Medical-surgical Nursing
google.co.uk ·
https://books.google.co.uk › books
Suzanne C. O'Connell Smeltzer, Brenda G. Bare, Janice L. Hinkle · 2010 · Medical
Skin and tongue turgor are monitored on a regular basis. In a healthy person, pinched skin immediately returns to its normal position when released.
Measures of Skin Turgor in Humans
HMP Global Learning Network ·
https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork.com › ...
Instead of skin turgor to assess hydration status, the tongue may be more reliable since its state reflects body condition and not age. Fortes et al19 assessed ...
Pain Management of AIDS Patients - Page 41 - Google Books result
google.co.uk ·
https://books.google.co.uk › books
Thomas Janisse · 2012 · Medical
... such as orthostatic hypotension, decreased skin turgor, and dry tongue, ... These dehydrated patients are often hemodynamically only borderline stable ...
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Note added at 3 heures (2023-02-06 17:05:47 GMT)
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Nursing Diagnosis Manual: Planning, Individualizing, and ...
google.co.uk ·
https://books.google.co.uk › books
Marilynn E. Doenges, Mary Frances Moorhouse, Alice C. Murr · 2022 · Medical
... possibly evidenced by dry mucous membranes, poor skin turgor, ... increased pulse rate, decreased skin and tongue turgor, dry skin and mucous membranes.
OR
even better
borderline tongue turgor
they are look at the tongue to see how it is affected by dehydration
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Note added at 3 heures (2023-02-06 17:06:25 GMT)
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Brunner & Suddarth's Textbook of Medical-surgical Nursing
google.co.uk ·
https://books.google.co.uk › books
Suzanne C. O'Connell Smeltzer, Brenda G. Bare, Janice L. Hinkle · 2010 · Medical
Skin and tongue turgor are monitored on a regular basis. In a healthy person, pinched skin immediately returns to its normal position when released.
Measures of Skin Turgor in Humans
HMP Global Learning Network ·
https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork.com › ...
Instead of skin turgor to assess hydration status, the tongue may be more reliable since its state reflects body condition and not age. Fortes et al19 assessed ...
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Where does the text refer to dryness?
2 hrs
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but I said "even better, borderline tongue turgor"début de pli cutanée, langue limite
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Reference comments
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Stuart and Aida Nelson
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Reference:
Les auteurs expliquent : « Nos données suggèrent que les bactéries de la langue, faciles à identifier, peuvent contribuer au dépistage, au diagnostic et au suivi de l’insuffisance cardiaque». Ils ajoutent : « Les mécanismes qui relient les micro-organismes de la langue et l’insuffisance cardiaque doivent faire l’objet de recherches à venir ».
Quant à l’aspect de la langue, il pourrait donner une indication (pas un diagnostic formel, évidemment). Une langue saine est habituellement rose ou rouge clair, avec un peu de blanc. En cas d’insuffisance cardiaque, elle virerait au rouge plus foncé, avec du jaune, et cette apparence serait de plus en plus marquée au fil de l’évolution de la maladie.
https://www.passionsante.be/article/insuffisance-cardiaque/i...
Vivre avec une insuffisance cardiaque
Enflement du visage, des lèvres, de la langue
https://www.coeuretavc.ca/-/media/pdf-files/canada/health-in...
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Heart failure patients have a redder tongue with a yellow coating and the appearance changes as the disease becomes more advanced
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/tongue-microbes-might-be-...
Quant à l’aspect de la langue, il pourrait donner une indication (pas un diagnostic formel, évidemment). Une langue saine est habituellement rose ou rouge clair, avec un peu de blanc. En cas d’insuffisance cardiaque, elle virerait au rouge plus foncé, avec du jaune, et cette apparence serait de plus en plus marquée au fil de l’évolution de la maladie.
https://www.passionsante.be/article/insuffisance-cardiaque/i...
Vivre avec une insuffisance cardiaque
Enflement du visage, des lèvres, de la langue
https://www.coeuretavc.ca/-/media/pdf-files/canada/health-in...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2023-02-06 17:38:09 GMT)
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Heart failure patients have a redder tongue with a yellow coating and the appearance changes as the disease becomes more advanced
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/tongue-microbes-might-be-...
Discussion
It is seen in diseases of the heart or lungs and in abnormal haemoglobin conditions like methemoglobin and sulfhemoglobin etc. Here cyanosis is caused due to desaturation of central arterial blood due to diseases of the heart and lungs.