Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Angle petite/grande largeur

English translation:

angle (on) short side/broad side

Added to glossary by John Farebrother
Oct 6, 2023 19:40
7 mos ago
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French term

Angle petite/grande largeur

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Technical drawings
Found on technical drawings:

Figure X - coupe horizontale - angle petite largeur
Figure Y - coupe horizontale - angle grande largeur
Proposed translations (English)
1 angle (on) short side/broad side

Discussion

Althea Draper Oct 6, 2023:
The link doesn't seem to be working below so here it is again

https://assets.grenfelltowerinquiry.org.uk/MET00053158_P14_E...
Althea Draper Oct 6, 2023:
This document has technical drawings that are in both French and English relating to cladding. Figures 18 and 19 on page 193 of 200 refer to "coupe horizontale- angle petite largeur" and "coupe horizontale- angle grande largeur" with the equivalent English version on page 33 of 200 calling these "Horizontal cut - small width angle" and "Horizontal cut - wide angle". They seem to refer to the regions where the cladding is fixed around the corners of a wall. It looks like the distance that the fastening bracket is from the corner determines whether the corner is described as "petite" or "grande largeur". On page 14 it states "Dimensioning of these elements will take into account the implementation and handling constraints relating to these elements. To avoid spillage due to the dead weight of the panel, a retaining bracket must be provided in the corners for large elements (see Figs. 18 and 19)." The original French version is on page 175 and I think the English translation is not the greatest, so maybe their translation of angle petite/grande largeur isn't great either.
https://assets.grenfelltowerinquiry.org.uk/MET00053158_P14_E...

Proposed translations

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angle (on) short side/broad side

Aye aye, me hearties, fire broadside and prepare to board...

I can only assume the shape you are dealing with is an irregular quadrilateral of some kind. Imagine it is a truncated triangle, so you have a broad base, two lines that approach each other as you near the top, and a narrow top line. Now, turn this truncated-triangle irregular quadrilateral on its side so the short top and narrow bottom (my mind is boggling at the thought of the navel revealed by the short top ...) become the short and broad sides respectively. Each of the sides will have two angles, one at each corner of the quadilateral, which could be called the (top and bottom) short-side and broad-side angles.

Do you actually have the drawings?

Being less light-hearted, maybe you're dealing with the corner elements of a composite-panel cladding system such as those shown in the image below, where, as you can see, you have wide and narrow elements, so you could be looking at wide/narrow angle (element) or angle (piece/element), narrow/wide.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2023-10-07 08:09:28 GMT)
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Drawings to be found on p.23 of the CSTB Avis Technique for Reynobond cladding here: https://www.cstb.fr/pdf/atec/GS02-C/AC041083.PDF
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