Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

eine Schoh danach

English translation:

one hour afterwards

Added to glossary by Timoshka
Oct 28, 2023 02:55
6 mos ago
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German term

eine Schoh danach

German to English Social Sciences General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
From a 1940 letter, written in Vienna by a Jewish woman to her sister and brother-in-law (Konrad) in New York:

Freuen würden wir uns, wenn er [Rabbiner Julius Max Bach] sein Versprechen Dir gegenüber, lieber Konrad, verwirklichen würde. Aber glauben werden wir daran erst "eine Schoh danach."

There is no additional context, as everything preceding and following these two sentences concerned other topics.
Proposed translations (English)
4 one hour afterwards

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Oct 29, 2023:
@Roni
Thanks a lot for the confirmation and the very interesting tidbit of information; always here to learn something new--and so I did!

@Phil
After rereading the sentence:
Could very well be! I didn't find a proverb or biblical reference to explain the saying (didn't search long this time, though) but I think that Martina's suggestion would've been good enough. Unfortunately, the Q is now closed.

Best wishes
Roni Glaser Oct 28, 2023:
hour/שעה Björn's suggestion sounds good to me, in Hebrew "hour" is "sha'a" (שעה), corresponding to the alternative spelling mentioned by Björn's reference, "schaah". The A sounds in Hebrew are often O sounds in Yiddish, e.g. Shabbat > Shabbos, so "hour" seems like a good translation.
philgoddard Oct 28, 2023:
So maybe Martina's answer is correct, but Björn's explanation is the right one.
Björn Vrooman Oct 28, 2023:
For reference Schoh--also "schóoh"--typically means "Stunde" (more sources available):
https://www.digi-hub.de/viewer/fullscreen/DE-11-002129402/76...

Cf. "Sprichwörter und Redensarten deutsch-jüdischer Vorzeit..." (p. 261) by Abraham M. Tendlau on GBooks. The author of that book also lists "schaah" as an alternative spelling, I guess, for "Stunde" (which may be easier to look for online).

Unfortunately, since I need to work today too, I'm a bit preoccupied and can't think of anything suitable right now. But maybe this helps.

Best
Martina Kilgo Oct 28, 2023:
I was not able to find references for the term “Schoh,” however, I think she basically says, “we believe it, when we see it/when the other “shoe” drops. I believe at least that’s implied. :-)

Proposed translations

11 hrs
German term (edited): eine Scho(h) danach
Selected

one hour afterwards

die Scho - eine Stunde: Jiddisches WB, Duden Taschenbücher.

> schoh with an 'h' as an alternative spelling, as in 'ich ka' scho(h)' = ich komme schon in Bayerisch that I happened to have once heard in Berchtesgarden, of all places.

Pity the matching Discussion Entry, albeit with a different and IMO phonetic spelling, couldn't have been posted as an answer but thanks everyone for 'waiting' for my answer.
Example sentence:

kumen wet noch undser ojsgebenkte schoh <> kommen wird noch unsere ersehnte Stunde,

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